Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 - Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro

ijsa

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#41
Yea,but if you compare Note 4 and Note 5 there's no change except for the Display,tbh Note 3 is a better device than Note 4
I'm not pro criticism right now,I still think they make some awesome devices,but I think they are playing it safely ,
I mean SD650 in Note 3 is better than Note 4 and Note 5,I mean like seriously come on :confused:
And yea all the processors do the job,but come on you gotta have some edge when you're launching products as a firm and as a customer who likes smartphones
Yes... I agree but then there are companies like Vivo, Oppo and lot many.... so they bring new iteration every year with small cosmetic changes to take on such brands who are mostly operating offline and fooling their customers...

They have recently introduced... I think Y1 with a TV advt. featuring Katrina..... just for these Vivo's and Oppo's....

And not every one is as tech savvy and well informed as you are to know the difference....

But I think now they are doing very well by bringing on best in every segment at a fair price...

Their Mix2S is highly anticipated....
 

volcano619

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#42
I'm not comparing them with anyone here but themselves and their hardcore fans..And just because everyone's not tech savvy and are not able to tell the difference justify the act.. :confused:
Factually the devices Note 4 and 5 is still getting beaten by it's 2 year old predecessor!! And I'm not saying by user experience because everyone tends to use their device in a certain way..I'm taking on paper specs SD650 vs SD625
Tell this to a common man buying a phone who has to choose and I think he can agree that it's not something a mobile brand should do..anyways this is what I feel
 

ijsa

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#43
And just because everyone's not tech savvy and are not able to tell the difference justify the act.. :confused:
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Tell this to a common man buying a phone who has to choose and I think he can agree that it's not something a mobile brand should do..anyways this is what I feel
As I said IMO they just did it to take on Vivo etc.... and even added some models adding plus after their names but with lower spec's just for the offline market....

And why would a shopkeeper tell a customer that he is getting more profit and selling a phone with poor spec's but identical name....

Definitely, it is a foolish idea to present such a product to a well informed customer...
 

dextermorgan

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#45
Yea,but if you compare Note 4 and Note 5 there's no change except for the Display,tbh Note 3 is a better device than Note 4
I'm not pro criticism right now,I still think they make some awesome devices,but I think they are playing it safely ,
I mean SD650 in Note 3 is better than Note 4 and Note 5,I mean like seriously come on :confused:
And yea all the processors do the job,but come on you gotta have some edge when you're launching products as a firm and as a customer who likes smartphones
people again say 650 is better than 625 but for budget phones , 625 comes with better gfx processor with adreno 506 compared to adreno 510
For instance, the Snapdragon 650 uses Adreno 506 graphics cores clocked at 650MHz while the Snapdragon 650 uses Adreno 510 cores clocked at 550MHz. The 100MHz boost may not visible to the naked eye and it may not matter much. However, the Adreno 506 supports OpenGL ES 3.1 while the Adreno 510 on the Snapdragon 650 doesn’t support this. This shows up in raw graphics performance games like Dead Trigger 2, Modern Combat and the likes as the games are optimised of the for the OpenGL ES 3.1 API. The performance boost is significant with faster loading times and no drops in frame rates.
so in reality theres no that much of difference between SD 650 and SD 625 hence I didnt feel any difference in day to day use when using note 3 and note 4 side by side
 

volcano619

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#46
I guess day to day usage is different for everyone..for me day to day usage is based on raw processing power and not graphics oriented stuff,since playing games is just a part of the usage or rather it's not the majority portion of days usage..but raw power in which SD650 uses A72 is obviously better than SD625 A52/53 cores
So I guess in reality for me Note 3 still takes the lead,since I can live with a few dropped frames in some games which is not my sole purpose..
 

volcano619

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#49
I know this was thrown at me Everytime I use to defend note 3,but it's all theorotical values and when it comes to practical performance,all 625 does is reduce the throttle in power so that heat generation is less and the 14nm architecture makes it even more easy to dissipate power which is already less which gives a slight increase in battery life and that's like 10% practically which is negligible ,but since you already have a ginormous battery its not a smart move to say that I've increased battery life furthermore by cutting off performance :confused:

Increase in heat is directly proportional to power dissipation

And there were no heating issues on Note 3 to begin with,so the justification is just pointless ,only point I can possibly entertain is dextermorgan saying that he needs an increase in graphical computation..which still according to me is not that great,since I don't hang to games all day long and I don't think a lot of people do too..
 
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dextermorgan

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#50
no man, its like 650 comes with higher clock speeds but it cant sustain them for long since it causes heat plus battery drain. plus it comes with slow gpu which limits its 3d games performance

625 comes with slightly lower clock speeds but since its on 14nm, It can maintain constant load even while sipping low power. plus as said earlier, comes with better gfx card.

In the end, its not big difference betwen 650 and 625 since its a big difference between 14nm and 28nm. its not much of a downgrade plus if it was indeed low performance than note 3, you would see loads of complaints on miui forum. but yet, note 4 sold well

they could have just launched note 5 pro as regular note 5 and left the 10k-13k price point alone. But they launched note 5 anyways bringing round edge screens to mainstream at slightly lower price than note4. thats a great move I think. remember rounded edge 18:9 ascpect displays only introduced last year and already they're on 10k phones.