The Religon of Reason

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Here's an interesting writeup from an indian perspective on an atheist ad campaign that started off in the UK 🙂

MIND SET

The religion of reason

The Western campaign may be irrelevant to India because many of our indigenous faiths allow, if not positively encourage atheism

Prakash Shesh
Sunday TOI Aug 09 2009

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FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION: A London bus displays one of the slogans used by the atheist campaign


There is growing support for the ‘atheist bus campaign’ in the UK, US, Canada and parts of Europe. Just as the Church publicly exhorts the faithful to follow religion, various atheist groups came together as the British Humanist Association and decided to broadcast their viewpoint by purchasing advertising space on London’s buses. Non-believers were asked to coin interesting slogans and to contribute to campaign finances.

Richard Dawkins, the biologist, admirer of Charles Darwin and author of ‘The God Delusion’, announced he would match the money raised from the public. The scheme set a modest target of £5000 to be raised through public donations. But the actual collection was in excess of £150,000. It was a pointer to the campaign’s appeal and the chord it struck with many. Instead of 40 buses bearing the advertisement, it was eventually carried on 200 — much to the chagrin of the church.

The church complained to the advertising regulatory authority that the campaign was in bad taste and bound to hurt religious sentiment. The adjudicating authority rejected the complaint citing the primacy of “freedom of expression”. Some of the slogans used were:


• There is probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy yourself.
• You can be good without God.

There were variations too. Two dozen buses in Manhattan, New York, loudly proclaimed: “You don’t have to believe in God to be a moral or ethical person”. And in an acerbic twist to the Bible’s opening sentence, the slogan used on 25 buses in Chicago was, “In the beginning, Man created God.”

In a retaliatory campaign, the Christian party in London hit back with its own advertisement for God. It said, “There definitely is a God. So join the Christian party and enjoy your life”. The transport authorities were, of course, delighted that so much ad revenue was coming their way.

The campaign has spread to Canada and Europe and shows signs of travelling further afield. The atheist associations have happily declared that their main objective has been achieved. Should the church want them to authenticate their claims, the argument can easily be turned on its head by asking the church to prove its case.

The surprising element in all of this is that the 80% of the UK is a “believer”, according to surveys. The US is similarly devout and about 90% of Americans also believe in miracles. In fact, the US is probably the only country in the world that proclaims its faith in God on its currency with the printed affirmation 'In God we trust'.

Why then, would so many join the atheist campaign? Is religion losing its sheen? And what would happen if this campaign came to India? Would local municipalities risk their buses getting burnt for 'blasphemy'? Would political parties be glad of a ready-made opportunity to establish their role as guardians of culture? Would the government show the same maturity in handling the issue as it did in its response to the judgment on Section 377?

Surprisingly, despite its religiosity, India is home to many religions that deny the existence of God. Gautam Buddha clearly asked his followers not to accept even his preaching if it failed to pass the test of reason. Buddha’s argument was that if God is omnipresent, why is there so much evil all around? Buddhism also rejects the idea of a soul in a human body.

Jainism, which follows the teachings of Mahavira, propounds that the concept of God is falsehood (mithya). Mahavira believed that the universe had no beginning and so, there could not be a creator. Jainism asks human beings to exploit the huge amount of energy stored within each of us instead of searching for it elsewhere.

Hinduism — the religion of a large majority of Indians — officially accepts that atheists can continue to be Hindus. India has produced many towering personalities who did not believe in God. Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, despite his traditional upbringing, was an avowed nonbeliever. The Indian atheist list would include: Babasaheb Ambedkar, Veer Savarkar, Ram Manohar Lohia, Manavendranath Roy, Ramasamy Naicker (his protégés MG Ramachandran and Tamil Nadu chief minister M Karunanidhi), Baba Amte and Khushwant Singh. Atheism not only rejects faith in life after death, spirits and God, but is also severely critical of religious principles that do not stand the test of scientific scrutiny.

Hindu mythology believes that Brihaspati is the presiding deity of atheists. His philosophy is known as the Charvaka (or Lokayata) school of thought, which rejects Vedic doctrine and ridicules ritual as self-serving procedures of no real benefit to anyone. An estimated 2% of India’s Hindus are atheist. Few of them are aware that their religion allows for atheism. Most of them believe that society regards the atheist as abnormal, immoral and irreligious and this is why many atheists are wary of publicly admitting to their beliefs.

Ironically, in a country where atheism is a legitimate part of religion, a bus campaign similar to the one in the West would probably run into massive trouble. There would probably be widespread protest. Hindu philosophy is very liberal and extremely tolerant towards every living being, including plants and animals, there is no official costume, fixed days for worship, insistence on ritual, no desire to proselytize and ‘grow’ the religion beyond its current geographical boundaries, no rigid methodology for religious procedure. Hinduism gives its followers complete and utter liberty to choose their deity. Hinduism is tolerant but can we say that of all its followers?

(The author is a management consultant)
 
there will be some sort of civil unrest in india if such a campaign were to be tried... forget that they claim hinduism etc allow for non-belief.

btw what about agnostics? do we fall under the atheist category or are we less represented? im sure many people are actually agnostic but just call themselves atheist because that word isnt in their vocab..

the word "probably" in the bus slogan "there is probably no god...." sounds like its agnostic rather than atheist to me... (if i have the meaning of the words right in my head). of course one can search for "atheist versus agnostic" on google to get some pointers like: http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/atheism.htm (good read)
 
I think agnostic and atheist are pretty much the same, They just need some evidence to prove the facts to them. I am with you with this, I studied Anatomy in Med School, and we studied human body in great details, and non of us found any soul, lol.In India if you come to think of it, all these political parties are using religion as a means of divide and rule, same as them claim Britishers did to Indians, it too sad that when our own people, the people that we elect to run out country do this, its expectable. You really have to look at somethings in the past that have happened in the name of religion, and think about what these politicians are trying to do. I wish more people become aware of this and start categorizing people on the basis of their quality, qualifications, experience etc, instead of Religion and Caste.
 
atheist believes GOD does NOT exist. The opposite of a religous person that beleives that God DOES exist.

An agnostic is someone on the fence, not in the above 2 camps.Neither for or against. They club the two together but in reality an agnostic rejects an atheists firm belief with the same rigour as that of a religous person. Because the agnostic believes neither camp can successfully prove their point 🙂

the word "probably" in the bus slogan "there is probably no god...." sounds like its agnostic rather than atheist to me...

Heh, nice point. An Atheist would have said there is no such thing as a God. or like the other slogans mentioned

- You can be good without God.
- “You don’t have to believe in God to be a moral or ethical person”
- “In the beginning, Man created God.”

there will be some sort of civil unrest in india if such a campaign were to be tried... forget that they claim hinduism etc allow for non-belief.

Thats the irony of the situation. The majority philosophy (in theory) has no problems with this position but politicans would quickly ensure that does not remain the case and will succeed at it. Whilst the christian countries would not accept it because there is no tolerance for such in their philosophy.

Yet this campaign comes out in a western country with believers in the majority. So conceivably they have made the bigger leap and we have fallen behind.
 
actually, i am willing to participate in something like this. we just need to pool up enough money to post adverts on buses/bill boards.
like these in brazil.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/08/01/these-atheist-billboards-in-brazil-get-right-to-the-point/

as for hinduism/buddhism/jainism allowing atheism, its just absurd.(arrogant actually). if someone doesnt believe in what buddha says, how does he remain to be a buddhist? if someone doesnt believe in say hindu philosophy, then how is he an hindu?

its like saying, i am a marxist but i believe free market capitalism is a better political idea.
 
I'm not theist or atheist, but I'm a spiritual but not religious guy. Instead of campaigning against God an approach should be there to make people not take religious books seriously. That's where the problem is. People believe in human written religious books literally as word of God and are ready to kill for.
 


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