Reliance JioFiber: Port Forwarding NOT SUPPORTED

#1
The JioFiber router web interface presents option for port forwarding however it does not work in practice.
The page accepts and saves all the configuration changes you do. Yet you won't be able to connect to the port from outside.

The router also has a DMZ and UPnP options and those do not work either.
Customer care is unable to help ("We have no information about this at the moment")

The IP address as seen from outside is different than what the router shows as its WAN IP. So the router is not directly exposed to the internet. It is behind a NAT/Firewall.

The IP the router sees is 100.XX.XX.XX
IP as seen by sites like whatismyip.com is 49.XX.XX.XX

As far as I know 100.XX.XX.XX is a public IP but trying to access that IP from outside does not work either. So the router is sitting behind a firewall.

This is a major limitation if you want to run any kind of server. So developers and gamers beware.
If you want to make your DVR internet accessible, you can't.

With JioFi (dongle) you could use internet accessible IPv6 address to eliminate need of port forwarding but the Jio Fiber router only allocates local IPv6 addresses. Even if IPv6 worked like JioFi, it would not solve problem for IPv4 connections. So there is no alternative at the moment. You can use a VPN , but it slows you down and has other limitations.

I was planning to discontinue my old ISP but due to this limitation, I might have to discontinue JioFiber instead.
 
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mayank yadav

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#2
Because of the NAT you can't access your router from outside the jio network. But, You will be able to access your router from within the jio network i.e. any device (mobile/fiber) with a jio connection. Lets hope they start rolling out static IP's without NAT.
 
#3
I don't even need the IP to be static as long as it is accessible form outside. A builtin DDNS client in the router would be nice to have when they do this.
 


#5
Tried it, didn't work. UPnP would help you expose ports to the router's external interface but if the external interface is itself behind a NAT then it is still not open to internet.

Strange thing is that JioFi (wireless) dongle can support incoming connections on IPv6 but not JioFiber. Not that IPv6 only support is acceptable but that is better than nothing.

BTW the JioFiber router does not support DDNS either.
 

goodburner

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that is called double NAT, the router you have is connected to another router(which the ISP has) which connects to the internet. So even if you port forward from your router its pretty much useless.

Its not just JioFiber, a lot of ISPs do it, and new ISPs are pretty much guaranteed to do it. But if you really need to host a server, you should not be using this setup at all, home internet is not intended for hosting servers.

I am behind a double NAT and I haven't had any issues with games and there are multiple other options to host servers from your house,
So your "developers and gamers beware" is not really valid. IPv4 is basically extinct at this point, so what do you expect?

Pay more and get a static IP from some other ISP



ninja EDIT : the WAN IP you are seeing in the router is NOT 100.x.x.x, more like 10.x.x.x.
 


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I think you need to broaden your understanding of what hosting a server means. It does not have to mean a free for all FTP server to share movies and porn. A SSH daemon is a server. It hardly consumes any data but it is a server. A MQTT broker is a server. Anything that listens for incoming connections is a server.

JioFIber does not allow incoming connections regardless of whether it is IPv4 or IPv6. Also IPv4 is far from extinct. Some of the hardware I work with has no support for IPv6. I guess all you deal with is home networking gear which has support for IPv6 since more than a decade so no wonder this comes as a surprise to you.

Any way, I am a developer and need to host a server. I like the robustness of a fiber connection, free part is incidental, so your jab about paying for it was unnecessary because I am right now paying for a non fiber connection simply because it supports incoming connections.

"ninja Edit: the WAN IP you are seeing in the router is NOT 100.x.x.x, more like 10.x.x.x."

Fuck your ninja edit. How can you be so sure? Do you have remote access to my router? Or you think everybody else is dumb? The WAN IP I am seeing is 100.x.x.x. not 10.x.x.x
 
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mayank yadav

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Tried it, didn't work. UPnP would help you expose ports to the router's external interface but if the external interface is itself behind a NAT then it is still not open to internet.

Strange thing is that JioFi (wireless) dongle can support incoming connections on IPv6 but not JioFiber. Not that IPv6 only support is acceptable but that is better than nothing.

BTW the JioFiber router does not support DDNS either.
Even my router does not support ddns , i have connected a raspberry pi 3 to the router with the ddns client installed (and a few other things.). Just need to keep it running 24x7 thats all.
 
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guys there no way you can portforward on the Jio Gigafiber router, i have spoken to some1 in their technical department whome i know well and i have been informed that only when the service goes live there will be a full pledge firmware upgrade to the router for now the service is a test phase why the issues. Secondly i too have issues running a server on gigafiber and hence have a hathway 50mbps connection for the same, the issue is more so with SSH and PuTTy
 
#14
I spoke to technical person in jio. They have said they have blocked FTP access / Port Forwarding..Once they will launch jio fiber commercially and then once u take static IP from them . Then you will be able to access FTP server/ Port Forwarding.
 
#15
Public ip is my number 1 requirement as well. Hence I am still sucking upto shitty (poor upload) ADSL connection from Airtel. There are some of us who need to run ssh servers, rather than just play games :confused:
 
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The JioFiber router web interface presents option for port forwarding however it does not work in practice. The page accepts and saves all the configuration changes you do. Yet you won't be able to connect to the port from outside. The router also has a DMZ and UPnP options and those do not work either. Customer care is unable to help ("We have no information about this at the moment") The IP address as seen from outside is different than what the router shows as its WAN IP. So the router is not directly exposed to the internet. It is behind a NAT/Firewall. The IP the router sees is 100.XX.XX.XX IP as seen by sites like whatismyip.com is 49.XX.XX.XX As far as I know 100.XX.XX.XX is a public IP but trying to access that IP from outside does not work either. So the router is sitting behind a firewall. This is a major limitation if you want to run any kind of server. So developers and gamers beware. If you want to make your DVR internet accessible, you can't. With JioFi (dongle) you could use internet accessible IPv6 address to eliminate need of port forwarding but the Jio Fiber router only allocates local IPv6 addresses. Even if IPv6 worked like JioFi, it would not solve problem for IPv4 connections. So there is no alternative at the moment. You can use a VPN, but it slows you down and has other limitations. I was planning to discontinue my old ISP but due to this limitation, I might have to discontinue JioFiber instead.

hey buddy .. i will give you an idea here .. you don't need to configure port forward or play around NAt .. first check which IP address is reachable out of your network ...

generally JIO network setup in brief like this ( for end users )

question IF I HAVE A STATIC IP or IF I HAVE A DYNAMIC IP in both cases you can have all the services like FTP , SSH , DNS , HTTP and so on but you need to configure them differently for STATIC IP and for DYNAMIC IP

IPv4 ICMP = NOT RECHABLE ( so you can't configure any service whether you have a well configure NAT port forward in the router)

but when we dig into IPv6 configurations of JIO for their end users we can see

IPv6
Type Native IPv6

SLAAC No

ICMP Reachable

so follow the given below instruction you will be happy


first do a PING test from web based service to do so click here == IPv6 test - IPv6 vs. IPv4 latency test

for JIO users only IPv6 will reply .. now we came to know that using IPv6 we can do host all services and forward the ports

now as it is IPv6 so other IPv4 users may not able to connect to your services .. if they dont have dual stack setting with 6to4 ..

now for your easy installation .. you dont even need to do anything with MAT or PORT FORAWRD just.

you can also use NMAP to check things here

install nmap in your system , connect using your JIO ISP

use nmap commands to get results

IPv4 nmap service scan : nmap -sS <ipv4 address>
IPv6 nmap service scan : nmap -sS -6 <IPv6 address>

you will see the difference .

you have installed a web server in your machine and using a JIO IPv6 network now how you donna make this server available for public accessible ... goto Free dynamic DNS for IPv6 and setup your test domain ( free domain ) you can buy also TLD from there

now install dynamic DNS update scripts or client from their website into your machine

and keep your machine accessible over the internet ( here the problem is old internet users who uses IPv4 network will not able to access the services ( ask any Cisco expert they will also can help you )

you can access any service using any standard port but it must be IPv6 for JIO end users

more queries on 4G/5G or anything related to high end servers issues mail me at nisankh@fedoraproject.org ( REDHAT sponsored project community)

email : nisankh@fedoraproject.org
Fedora People : Fedora People - fedorapeople.org
Personal : Nisankh Acharjya
 
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The JioFiber router web interface presents option for port forwarding however it does not work in practice.
The page accepts and saves all the configuration changes you do. Yet you won't be able to connect to the port from outside.
I had put a post on a similar topic earlier, but the interesting thing is that I cannot access the section of the router where the port forwarding settings are at. How did you manage that? I tried all the usual username and password combinations but none worked!
 
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hey buddy .. i will give you an idea here .. you don't need to configure port forward or play around NAt .. first check which IP address is reachable out of your network ...

generally JIO network setup in brief like this ( for end users )

question IF I HAVE A STATIC IP or IF I HAVE A DYNAMIC IP in both cases you can have all the services like FTP , SSH , DNS , HTTP and so on but you need to configure them differently for STATIC IP and for DYNAMIC IP

IPv4 ICMP = NOT RECHABLE ( so you can't configure any service whether you have a well configure NAT port forward in the router)

but when we dig into IPv6 configurations of JIO for their end users we can see

IPv6
Type Native IPv6

SLAAC No

ICMP Reachable

so follow the given below instruction you will be happy


first do a PING test from web based service to do so click here == IPv6 test - IPv6 vs. IPv4 latency test

for JIO users only IPv6 will reply .. now we came to know that using IPv6 we can do host all services and forward the ports

now as it is IPv6 so other IPv4 users may not able to connect to your services .. if they dont have dual stack setting with 6to4 ..

now for your easy installation .. you dont even need to do anything with MAT or PORT FORAWRD just.

you can also use NMAP to check things here

install nmap in your system , connect using your JIO ISP

use nmap commands to get results

IPv4 nmap service scan : nmap -sS <ipv4 address>
IPv6 nmap service scan : nmap -sS -6 <IPv6 address>

you will see the difference .

you have installed a web server in your machine and using a JIO IPv6 network now how you donna make this server available for public accessible ... goto Free dynamic DNS for IPv6 and setup your test domain ( free domain ) you can buy also TLD from there

now install dynamic DNS update scripts or client from their website into your machine

and keep your machine accessible over the internet ( here the problem is old internet users who uses IPv4 network will not able to access the services ( ask any Cisco expert they will also can help you )

you can access any service using any standard port but it must be IPv6 for JIO end users

more queries on 4G/5G or anything related to high end servers issues mail me at nisankh@fedoraproject.org ( REDHAT sponsored project community)

email : nisankh@fedoraproject.org
Fedora People : Fedora People - fedorapeople.org
Personal : Nisankh Acharjya
THanks for the guidelines Nisankh. Your solution works well for Jio wireless connections (like using the JioFi hotspot). Any IPv6 enabled device on the internet can connect to a device behind the JioFi hotspot using the IPv6 address.

Unfortunately the same does not work with the JioFiber. The router seems to be assigning valid IPv6 addresses to the devices, but they cannot be routed to. Even tests like Test your IPv6. fail (it works with the JioFi dongle though).

So it seems Jio is blocking incoming IPv6 connections on their JioFiber connections for some reason. Any ideas?
 
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hey buddy .. i will give you an idea here .. you don't need to configure port forward or play around NAt .. first check which IP address is reachable out of your network ...

generally JIO network setup in brief like this ( for end users )

question IF I HAVE A STATIC IP or IF I HAVE A DYNAMIC IP in both cases you can have all the services like FTP , SSH , DNS , HTTP and so on but you need to configure them differently for STATIC IP and for DYNAMIC IP

IPv4 ICMP = NOT RECHABLE ( so you can't configure any service whether you have a well configure NAT port forward in the router)

but when we dig into IPv6 configurations of JIO for their end users we can see

IPv6
Type Native IPv6

SLAAC No

ICMP Reachable

so follow the given below instruction you will be happy


first do a PING test from web based service to do so click here == IPv6 test - IPv6 vs. IPv4 latency test

for JIO users only IPv6 will reply .. now we came to know that using IPv6 we can do host all services and forward the ports

now as it is IPv6 so other IPv4 users may not able to connect to your services .. if they dont have dual stack setting with 6to4 ..

now for your easy installation .. you dont even need to do anything with MAT or PORT FORAWRD just.

you can also use NMAP to check things here

install nmap in your system , connect using your JIO ISP

use nmap commands to get results

IPv4 nmap service scan : nmap -sS <ipv4 address>
IPv6 nmap service scan : nmap -sS -6 <IPv6 address>

you will see the difference .

you have installed a web server in your machine and using a JIO IPv6 network now how you donna make this server available for public accessible ... goto Free dynamic DNS for IPv6 and setup your test domain ( free domain ) you can buy also TLD from there

now install dynamic DNS update scripts or client from their website into your machine

and keep your machine accessible over the internet ( here the problem is old internet users who uses IPv4 network will not able to access the services ( ask any Cisco expert they will also can help you )

you can access any service using any standard port but it must be IPv6 for JIO end users

more queries on 4G/5G or anything related to high end servers issues mail me at nisankh@fedoraproject.org ( REDHAT sponsored project community)

email : nisankh@fedoraproject.org
Fedora People : Fedora People - fedorapeople.org
Personal : Nisankh Acharjya
Checking this thread after a long time. IPv6 does not need forwarding agreed but active firewalling can still be done if the ISP so desires and that is what Jio Fiber has done. They have intentionally blocked incoming connections - both IPv6 and IPv4. I had specifically checked both.
 
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Okay it has been quite some time since I faced this issue so decided to test again to see if things have changed.

In my last test in January I found that both IPv4 and IPv6 were blocked. I was hoping that IPv6 would work since it works on Jio's LTE connection. But no, it didn't. But as of today (8/8/2018) incoming connections on IPv6 are working. IPv4 is still blocked.

I want to work with some legacy IoT devices that only support IPv4 so this is still not a complete solution for me. But something is better than nothing. Hope they will unblock IPv4 too.