I mean, phpBB 2.x sucks.The new olympus (v3.x) is much better & looks on par with other decent board software - but no mods are made for preview/CVS versions of phpBB, so it still is effectively not yet usable.And by the time 3.x does come out, the other big ones would have AGAIN gone so far ahead of it that it might still stay with my description .IPB (even old versions) is much better. vBulletin is okay, it could do with a few UI refinements.