Preserving/digitzing Photos

vebk

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Basically I want to preserve two kinds of photos:
[*]Digital pictures I have taken over the last 4-5 years (about 4 GBs) and ones I continue to take.
[*]Old photos that are starting to show signs of fading and decay
[/list]I don't trust hard drives after the sudden death of my last 160GB hdd and now my mp3 player's hdd also seems to be on its last legs. So right now the digital pics are backed up on a DVD-RW. I would of course like to have something more permanent. Any suggestions? Are there any online services that would suit my need? (I would want the photos to remain in their original resolution, and wouldn't want them to be available to the general public for viewing).

As to the second category, what's the best way - buying a scanner, or giving it to some professional? In the latter case, I would appreciate any suggestions as to contact details, prices etc.
 

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I came across similar problem just few days back. HDD of my PC died on me, though I was able to recover most useful files (including snaps) it will not always be the case.What I do now is to upload everything on one Flickr account and 6 Gmail accounts. Flicker is not free (it charges $24 per year) but it gives you unlimited uploads and does not place restriction on resolution on images.And it gives you an upload tool, with that upload tool you can upload images in bulk.Just select the option to make images "private" and you should be set. You can try free version of Flickr, it works the same way except you can't upload more then 100 MB in a month.
 

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Have a web space with some nice provider. Choose the high storage and low bandwidth package. You could also make your own personal website :)
 


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yeah I checked out Flickr... sounded good... Still have to figure out whether $25 is worth it. Do they have some kind of guarantee that they will not lose your photos? Also do they have some kind of bulk download thing? (In the even that say I lose my DVD / hdd crashes).Also 6 Gmail accounts?? That sounds tedious! Why do you have two online backups? Why not just burn them on DVDs?
 

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Yups. I backup all my data (including images) on DVDs. Much more reliable than a external hard disk or pen drive etc. I have all the great movies that I downloaded from Bittorrent backed up on DVDs :D.
 

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flickr is a yahoo service.so u can be fairly sure that they cannot afford to lose ur data esp if u are paying them.and they give u 2 gb a month upload on paid accounts from what i know. i have a paid account at flickr.i dont think they have an option for downloading images in bulk... coz its more like a photo gallery to showcase photos rather than preserving them online...
 


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QUOTE(vebmetal @ Dec 14 2006, 06:31 PM) [snapback]70898[/snapback]
Do they have some kind of guarantee that they will not lose your photos?
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Not according to TOS that you accept while registering.


QUOTE(vebmetal @ Dec 14 2006, 06:31 PM) [snapback]70898[/snapback]
Also do they have some kind of bulk download thing? (In the even that say I lose my DVD / hdd crashes).
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Not that I know of. But its a good idea. Flickr's API is open so it is a good and feasible project.

QUOTE(vebmetal @ Dec 14 2006, 06:31 PM) [snapback]70898[/snapback]
Also 6 Gmail accounts?? That sounds tedious! Why do you have two online backups? Why not just burn them on DVDs?
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I have lots of snaps and one gmail account is not large enough. I use GMail drive, so these accounts are just like another partition for me.

I have two backups since I do not want to take chances with these snaps. These snaps and my mailbox is probably the only data that is worth preserving on my PC.

QUOTE(vebmetal @ Dec 14 2006, 06:31 PM) [snapback]70898[/snapback]
Why not just burn them on DVDs?
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DVDs wont last long. They wont survive more then a few years :( Hope that Google OR Yahoo will.


QUOTE(GSV13 @ Dec 14 2006, 06:15 PM) [snapback]70897[/snapback]
Have a web space with some nice provider.
Choose the high storage and low bandwidth package.
You could also make your own personal website :)
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Thats not safe. Most web space providers do not provide daily backups. Those who do, charge more then $100 per month.

QUOTE(Sushubh @ Dec 14 2006, 10:33 PM) [snapback]70909[/snapback]
and they give u 2 gb a month upload on paid accounts from what i know. i have a paid account at flickr.
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They removed 2 GB monthly limit and increased free account limit to 100 MB. I think it was just 2 days ago.
 

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Looking at the responses here, the majority are of the opinion HDs are not good, DVDs are better and storing offsite is even better.I have the opposite opinion, HDs are way faster than DVD, DVD is okay if you have the skills to check that your DVD-rs are still readable, this means you have a writer that allows quality scans. And offline, lol, lets store my stuff on the other side of the planet so they will be sooooooo safe.The trick to HDs, is to have a backup, mirror. I have stored most of my personal data & other stuff on HDs for many years now. I always have a mirror that i backup to on a regular basis that is kept offline when the job is done. If the HD fails, buy a new one and sync to it. I do this all with internal HDs btw, swapping them out of the case etc, if you dont want to do that, then a USB drive will fit the purpose just as well. You can have the DVD option as a 3rd backup if required. But then learn about how to quality scan your DVDs so in a few yrs time if you bought cheap mendia then you know when its time to transfer over to newer.
 

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I'm not really concerned about speed at all, just knowing that my photos are safe. Hdd mirroring is okay, but it's a whole lot more expensive than burning DVDs and purchasing online storage space. Also in the event like when your house burns down, mirrored hdds won't be that peachy, though online storage would be. Also, and I could be wrong on the figures, but I think the average life of a good quality DVD (5 - 100 years(?)) is a lot more than that of an average hdd (3-4 years). My hdd in fact died in almost exactly 2 years.I've just been playing around with Google's new service, called Picasa Web Albums, which integrates really well with their Picasa software (which I find to be quite useful and appealing). The basic free package has 250MB of storage, but their paid ones start with 6.25GB for $25 a year (about Rs. 1100). The excellent part is that you can download whole albums in one click, including albums from a friend's collection which then integrates into your Picasa collection.My only apprehension is getting tied into paying this $25 (or whatever) year after year for the rest of my life (or till there is a better solution!). But as I said, it's a whole lot cheaper than buying hdds and having to keep replacing them.
 

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I think you can start with GMail drive. Its free and backup simply means running backup in Picasa and selecting your GMail drive as target.

I am on MTNL so uploads are free for me, and with your unlimited airtel connection restore would be free as well.

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