MTNL Broadband: How can i Use my Friend account??

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Can share Broadband connection to create own LAN network i.e. more than one PC can be connected.

from what i see they do not say anything about wireless networks.
and they also do not say anything about using a mobile phone to connect to your so called LAN?
in fact they use the term PC. what about a Mac?

duh. what i am saying is common sense. and you want me to take their wording at face value?
 
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LOL u r hellbent to prove that MTNL is not allowing sharing..when u say LAN.. it also includes Wireless LAN called WLAN.LAN and PC are global words here.
 
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now you are speculating on what MTNL means by the terms LAN and PC.

A PC does not mean a Mac or a Mobile Phone.
A LAN does not mean a WLAN.

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in the end, they do not clearly say ANYTHING about you having the rights to share your internet connection with your neighbors. they allow you to create a local network which is pretty clear considering they are offering routers with multiple LAN ports by default.
 
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ok no arguments!
 
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well yeah! MTNL does not clarify it because i assume no one ever thought about clarifying it :)
 
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LAN essentially means a network that is limited within your house/company. if it goes ahead your house/company, it becomes a WAN :)

I dont think so. wifi connected devices also comes in lan and they dont limit our connection to one house/company. One more thing, wan is network of LAN. and other networks. :)

ok I posted late and admin already have clarification on using some terms :) :) .. so no arguments :)
 


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A local area network (LAN) is a computer network that connects computers and devices in a limited geographical area such as home, school, computer laboratory or office building.[1] The defining characteristics of LANs, in contrast to wide area networks (WANs), include their usually higher data-transfer rates, smaller geographic area, and lack of a need for leased telecommunication lines.

Local area network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

heh.
 
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We are talking abt only MTNL connection here. MTNL has not made me sign any contract except the application form. Nothing abt sharing was mentioned and never mentioned multi user or single user either orally or verbally.


I found it in Paragraph 17 of their Terms of Service.

ok here is good news for all MTNL users.

MTNL has officially allowed LAN sharing :D

PERIOD to this thread!

MTNL Services

They specifically stressed it by marking it in RED :D

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*** Why BROADBAND/ ADSL from MTNL
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Sharing:Can share connection to create your own network.

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this is for mgcarley:
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the above is form MTNL asks to fill.. point 11 of instructions states that LAN is customer's responsibility.. which indirectly means creating LAN is allowed.

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Whilst it does say in their FAQs (#40) and at point #11 on page 2 that you can create a network and share internet, this implies within your own household. If you still don't believe me, I would suggest that you continue reading on to page 3, items 4, 5 and in particular 8. Broadband connection is location specific & customer shall not remove or shift any equipment installed by MTNL at the customer’s premises (the said location).

In other words, With this contract, let's say that upon signing this contract, MTNL agrees to supply service to flat A10, So-and-so CHS, Such-and-such Road, Mumbai 400000. Item 8 on page 3 automatically disqualifies the households in flats A11 & A9 (or any others in the society) from having the right to use this connection (whether the signatory to this contract grants them access or not), as they are a separate entity in a separate household which is not covered by this contract. As such, they must sign their own contract.

Such use would be considered misuse by MTNL if they found out and at their discretion, they would have the right to take either civil or criminal action against you.

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based on ur reply, i assue HAYAI will not allow sharing and will have single user/multi user policy??

You may share as much as you like within your own household. If you happen to have more than 1 PC, then that's fine - our CPEs come with 4 Gigabit ports (so technically we expect 4PCs, 3 PCs and 1 IPTV or 2 of each in a normal household by default).

On residential plans, sharing with neighbours is not allowed, cyber-cafes are not allowed, and any premises with a clear intention of business (solo entrepreneurs exempt) will not have the option of a residential plan. We have a pretty clear-cut policy on misuse for the various categories of connection: basically speaking on our contract, paragraph 18 says effectively that "the subscriber is not allowed to share, resell or redistribute the services in any manner". (I should probably note, most of our contract is lifted directly from our upstream ISPs and adopted with our name)

Furthermore, even if you did share with your neighbour(s) without telling us, and they decided to go on downloading sprees, it would be you who is liable for the charges - even on a flat-rate plan, because whilst the flat-rate plans do not have FUPs, if a 5, 10, 25 or more mbit/s line is saturated 24/7, then that would be considered misuse or abuse of the network (25mbit/s is close to 7.5TB a month, which should be nearly impossible for a single household to achieve, but with 10 people, is plausible.)

Furthermore, for those running small businesses or who want their housing society to offer fast access, there's no reason NOT to go on an appropriate plan - unlike our competitors, we do have special plans with reasonable rates for SMEs and for housing societies available.

Basically, we want to be flexible in our offerings, yet clear-cut in what is and is not allowed, and sharing with neighbours by definition, is not allowed.
 
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yey!

Been there done that. Last thing most solo guys need is broadband at 500% the price... however, this applies only for home premises as well... in a shop or office or other kind of business premises, sme rates would apply (which aren't that different from our residential rates anyway).
 

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