I thought it might be interesting to find out what you guys have planned, for when you finally get Hayai.
I'm presuming many are going to be using up (a large proportion of) their bandwidth with downloads of DVDs, Bluray movies and the like, some are going to be overdosing on youtube, others will be using gameservers (or starting their own?), but I'd really like to know what else you guys are thinking/ dreaming of. Just seeing a figure like 1 gbps on paper, or for that matter even 100 mbps, doesn't tell you anything about how amazingly fast it is, till you get down to using it. So maybe many of us are going to find some cool things to do once we start using the service, and the initial euphoria and speed-high settles in.
I've been using seedboxes recently, and the ones I'm on now are on 1gbit pipes. I've got up to 90 MB/s (720 mbit) speeds downloading and close to 40 MB/s uploading. Its incredible how fast these are, and I've only fully understood this after using them. Bluray films come down in a few minutes (if there are other fast connections / seedboxes seeding), and if you're the kind that uses file hosts like link-removed, well, getting a 1 gb file down just took me less than a minute. All this has helped me get a feel for the kind of speeds we're talking about with Hayai.
But there are many minuses to seedboxing. There are limits to the sites you can use, and you have to get the files down to your home computer through ftp and this is totally dependent on your home connection speed......uhh, enough said.
This question was actually already asked by me:
https://broadband.forum/broadband-in-india/62837-would-you-do-100mbit-s/
So obviously, this is going to be one of the things, getting huge files down faster, improving ratios on private trackers and all that. But I'm more interested in trying to imagine what else is possible with it. I think mgcarley asked something similar in some other thread, but I thought this deserves a thread on its own. Maybe you have some ideas for us too, mgc? What do you usually do with such speeds?
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Nothing spectacular, really. Occasionally I download stuff or what streamed content. I've downloaded 400MB in the last 12 hours and uploaded 1.3GB, but on some days that could be vastly different. I can download (or upload) 10GB in minutes if I want to, but I know that I don't have to do that every hour of every day - I have a connection that is there when I need it, and it's sufficiently fast that my content comes down quickly enough to satisfy my need for immediate satisfaction.
Where you would set a movie downloading overnight, I would set it downloading, make a pot of chai or coffee, come back and it would be nearly ready if not completed. When it's not downloading then the rest of the time it sits idly waiting for me to do the next thing. The Internet isn't going to go away - it'll still be there tomorrow, so I don't have to download all of it at once.
I'm also thinking more along the lines of how this might be used in fields like medicine, development etc., though this might have to wait till the network is much more widespread.
Also, as a sidenote, I just noticed that the 1 gbps plan has a soft FUP of 500 gb. As mentioned above, I'm on 1 gbit servers, and I've found that I can get through that much (download and upload) in around 3-4 days, and even sooner if there are things like freeleeches on somewhere. Don't you think its a little on the lower side....maybe something like 1 tb might do it, seeing as how its easy to upload ~200 gigs in a day on such connections.
How many terabytes of hard drives have you got? I've got about 4.3TB at my place, about 60-70% full. Do I go out and buy another hard drive every month? No. Every other month? No. Every 6 months... yeah, maybe. Have I even looked at 100% of the content which I've downloaded? Hell no. Maybe 50-60% of it if I'm lucky (and even that may be a result of me leaving things playing overnight).
In short: what you *can* pull down on a 1Gbit/s connection versus what you *will* pull down on such a connection is often quite a different story, if for no other reason than practicality. Sure, you might use 400+GB in a couple of days, but chances are that you're not going to download too much over the next 20 days as you actually go through and watch the movie/play the game/listen to the
music/etc, and especially considering that next month, the process would be repeated again - you don't have to download the entire Internet at once, you know
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But even with the super high quality formats that are out (which most people don't even have the hardware to take advantage of anyway), anyone with a life can only spend so much time sitting on their ass watching movies anyway, so there's an upper limit there somewhere as to what you'd end up using in a month. Let's say you download 20x 25GB BR Rips a month - that's "only" 500GB. 20x hour-long
TV shows at around 1.5GB each, total 530GB. Piles of music (let's be generous and say 50GB - at 320kbit/s quality that's still 355 hours worth). 1 or 2 new games a month over steam: total maybe another 20GB. We've barely breached 600GB total (without having segregated the difference between HZ traffic and regular Internet traffic) and now everyone can sit here wondering: where are you going to get the time to consume all this content?
All in all, it's going to take multiple people in the same household each downloading this much content before that household would be considered to be "abusing" the network. As of now, the FUPs are what they are, however that's not to say that they wouldn't change for the better after some time as our costs come down thanks to volume.
about the last point, from what I understood,
The connection is NOT meant to be maxxed out at all.
Flat rate plans are basically Data based plans, but with a bill limit guarantee.
If you exceed te usage sometimes, you dont have to pay extra
No, those would be the post-paid data plans.
The flat-rate plans just give an idea as to what might be considered fair. Whether we do anything if the FUP is crossed depends on the conditions of the network at the time - we may choose to shape certain traffic to ease congestion if it happened so that more time-critical things didn't get affected (VOIP, Gaming and so on), or it may also be nothing. As per the FAQs, data plans would not be subjected to any kind of shaping which is a fairly fundamental difference.