Haha SLK, starting to preach to us about who downloads more. Dude, I know what speeds I get, and I get on an average 12KBps download speed. Multiply that by 8 and you get 96kbps down speed, not 128kbps. Hotwire is indeed unreliable but it's not that bad as an isp because I haven't had any disconnection problems at all. Regarding torrents, I also download them but man, I do limit how much I download, I don't want to scare the CTO away.