government employee salaries & corruption

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NDTV.com: Will salary hike improve efficiency?
The sixth pay commission that is expected to submit its report any day, will bring windfall gains for more than 55 lakh government employees, but the big question is, will the pay hike reduce corruption in the government and improve governance?
Neera Yadav and Akhand Pratap Singh, both former chief secretaries of Uttar Pradesh were identified as the most corrupt by their own fraternity in 1998, people who had close political links.
PAY HIKE ON THE CARDS Salary hike for central government employees after Holi
Reports: Salaries to go up by at least 20 per cent
55 lakh central government employees to benefit
Sixth pay commission will cost 1.5 per cent of GDP
BENEFICIARIES Judges
Bureaucrats
Armed forces, paramilitary
Engineers
Scientists
Class four employees
WHAT PAY HIKE MEANS Cabinet Secretary (Basic Salary): Rs 25-26,000
After 20 per cent hike (Basic Salary): Rs 30-31,000
THE SALARY DIVIDE DC's salary: Rs 20,000 + perks
Call centre employee: Rs 20,000
RBI Governor: Rs 44,000 + perks
Software analyst: Rs 60,000

The sixth pay commission report is expected soon and the government employees are doing a quick calculation of what is could possibly mean to them.
At least, a 20 per cent hike is expected, but will this raise mean less corrupt officers.
''Anyone who thinks pay hikes by the commission will reduce corruption is living in a fool's paradise. Today bureaucrats want the economic muscle of a businessman and the power of a politician,'' said Prakash Singh, former DGP, Uttar Pradesh.
The earlier pay commission recommended a 30 per cent hike in salaries and the government accepted it without delay.
But suggestions like cutting down a bloated bureaucracy and making babus accountable have not yet been implemented.
''What about accountability and delivery systems? We can easily cut down the babus and chaprasis by one fourth. The efficiency would increase tremendously,'' said TSR Subramaniam, former cabinet secretary.
Government employees have huge expectations from the sixth pay commission and it's a crucial vote bank that the government will not want to annoy, given the fact that elections don't seem to be too far away.

So with 6th pay commission suggesting salary hike, will our govt employees stop corruption.
Some example can be given as There could be a Traffic Police Constable & Engineer staying as neighbours. Engg has good vechicle, mobile, good school for his children with salary of 20-30K, while constable has around 10K (I guess) salary. So he may think even if I work honestly I will not enjoy as Engg, so it's better to allow people to break the traffic rules and then ask bribe from them
Now will 6th pay commission give govt employees salary according to today's standard of living. If yes, will it improve the productivity & reduce (or stop) corruption among govt employees?
 

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i would agree with that "Fool's Paradise" statement as far as reducing corruption is concerned...
 

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The problem now is different. Earlier salary was less hence they turned corrupt to run their houses. But now it has become greed and everyone wants to be richer than the colleague/neighbour/relative.
 

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i support the increment not with the aim of reducing corruption but to support the honest (whatever less the no. be) policemen & govt. employees with the increasing costs of living.
 

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First reduce the size of government. Then, link pay to performance. But none of that is going to happen, is it?A 20% increase is a drop in the ocean. When a senior officer in government (various tax departments especially) can earn a couple of crores annually if he decides to be corrupt, what difference is five thousand bucks going to make to him? Agreed that you need to provide decent salaries so that 'reasonably' honest officials don't have to ask for bribes. But those who are in service because they enjoy the power at their disposal or the Lifestyle such a position offers won't change coz of change in salary structure.
 

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Consider a modified version of the Pareto principle that can be used to categorize people and how they go about things. 20 % are really good guys. 20% are really bad guys. And the remaining 60% following the leader. Think thats how it happens in the real world. On second thought, maybe it should be 10-10-80, or 5-5-90, or...That apart, as government departments go, the excise department is the most corrupt one. Then comes the income tax department. And all others follow.
 


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Everywhere, the customer, who is spending the money for services is considered king and is serviced very well. For the government, the common people is the customer, coz, they pay the tax to run the government. The government employees should clearly understand this first. Anyway, we will always think this way and protest , until we are into a govt. service. Then, it will always be the "chaltha hai" attitude.
 

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also what needs to be understood is that the pay commision not only decides the salary of bureaucrats and policemen (a majority of whom are corrupt) but also scientists , paramilitary forces and teachers , all of whom deserve it
 

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First reduce the size of government. Then, link pay to performance. But none of that is going to happen, is it?


Not if winning elections matters :)

In this country, Govt. i'm lead to beleive, is the employer of last resort.

Otherwise, yes i think this step alone would have huge ramifications across the board.

Also needs to be followed through with effective enforcement to have any measurable impact. The Lok Ayuta has been doing fine work in that respect.

Everywhere, the customer, who is spending the money for services is considered king and is serviced very well. For the government, the common people is the customer, coz, they pay the tax to run the government. The government employees should clearly understand this first.

Not sure if thinking of a country's citizens as its govt's customers is accurate here. For one you are not obligated to avail of a companies services as you have to with paying taxes :)

Otherwise companies everywhere, if they want to stay in the black would have to pay attention to their customers, the bigger the market, the more compliant they become.

''Anyone who thinks pay hikes by the commission will reduce corruption is living in a fool's paradise. Today bureaucrats want the economic muscle of a businessman and the power of a politician,'' said Prakash Singh, former DGP, Uttar Pradesh.

In most other countries, govt. employees that are unhappy with thier employer go into private enterprise or industry.

private enterprise to be understood as is and not to be confused with corruption in this context :D

Why is it different here ?

Not eligible for Pension anymore ?

..or the fact that in private enterprise the work load is commensurate with the paycheck ;)