Do You want DTH prices to comedown ?

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Most of the members in this forum want DTH prices to comedown, want new & other missing channels and selection of pay channels on individual basis. That can be achieved only by the Government Regulation. Here the Govt Regulatory is the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India. It has recently issued a consultation paper on DTH pricing.

It has asked the public and interested persons to give consultation based on which it will formulate policy that will regulate the DTH pricing.

Persons desiring Govt regulation for DTH pricing give your suggestions.

A set of questions on consultation and answers were in the following thread. It was also asked there, whether CAS regualtion of Rs.5.30 per channel should be made applicale for DTH also ?.The thread is a bit big due to no. of questions made by the TRAI. So please devote 5 minutes of your time read the questions and answers, if you find the answers good simply copy the same and email it to the e-mail id mentioned at the end of that thread. Make any changes if you desire otherwiese. Anyway please make your suggestions. The last date for sending e-mails is 30.3.2009.

https://broadband.forum/direct-home-cable-fm-iptv-television/43300-intended-suggestion-dth-pricing-issue-trai/

I also request members kindly give you opinion on the answers given in the thread in that thread itself and any changes which are required to be made.

I am posting this thread in Tata Sky section because this is the most active participating section.
 
I think all of us do. But we must remember that all these companies are facing huge losses plus the recession. It is double whammy for them. I don't think they are making any profits so prices cannot go down atleast for now.
 
I think all of us do. But we must remember that all these companies are facing huge losses plus the recession. It is double whammy for them. I don't think they are making any profits so prices cannot go down atleast for now.

stop supporting these crap dth operators 😡 All suck our money and evade tax by lying that they are on loss 😡 If on loss let them close their business. who is crying for them to do business here? 😡
 
stop supporting these crap dth operators 😡 All suck our money and evade tax by lying that they are on loss 😡 If on loss let them close their business. who is crying for them to do business here? 😡

Stop your nonsense.
If you are not afford to DTH Prices then stop using it or Don't subscribe it.

DTH Business is certainly a costly affair.
 
The prices offered by all operators are almost same if anybody selects particular set of channels. The only problem with Tata Sky is they are bundling many channels. If they seperate out channel packages based on interests of people (like GEC's, News, Sports, etc) and provide these as packs it would reduce cost for 'normal' users. 'Others' (intrested in many channels) can go for MEGA like packs. I think DISH TV, BIG TV, DIGITAL TV has got packages right to some extent.
 
It is like cross subsidy. What is the cost of mega-pack like package in other DTHs. I think other DTHs are giving subsidy to low-end packages at the cost of high-end packs.Bundled package is cheaper than sum of its components. That may be the reason for cheaper high-end packages in TS.
 


I think all of us do. But we must remember that all these companies are facing huge losses plus the recession. It is double whammy for them. I don't think they are making any profits so prices cannot go down atleast for now.

DTH operators can get profit only when they get a minimum no. of subscribers. Dish has got that and it is going to start making profits. See the link below

https://broadband.forum/zee-dish-tv-dth/43072-dishtv-may-break-even-before-target/

DTH is now promoted as available for ordinary persons. Everything like TVs, Electricity, Fans, Fridge etc., where started as available for rich persons and now is there anyhouse which does not have that. Everybody can earn profit only when it is made for ordinary persons. In that case only due to many no. of takers the price will be decreased and it will be viceversa also i.e to get more no. of subscibers price will be decreased.
 
I absolutely agree. I don't understand the logic of starting this thread. DTH operators don't run their business on our wants and needs. They knows very well how to handle their business and also how to maintain the package prices in this competitive sector which awaits several other companies to launch their service soon. The current price strategy is still very ok and it is very competitive too. Also if u can compromise over quality, the better option is cable tv not dth.

DTH SERVICE IS ONLY MEANT FOR QUALITY.

Stop your nonsense.
If you are not afford to DTH Prices then stop using it or Don't subscribe it.

DTH Business is certainly a costly affair.
 
Stop your nonsense.
If you are not afford to DTH Prices then stop using it or Don't subscribe it.

DTH Business is certainly a costly affair.

what is your problem? are you mad?

stop supporting these crap dth operators All suck our money and evade tax by lying that they are on loss If on loss let them close their business. who is crying for them to do business here?

you people projecting those dths as like charity :hysterical: if they cannot make profit even with 4 million customers then for what they started this business? can they think the whole 1 billion Indian people will buy their dth?
what they claim is rubbish and you belive them and asking others to stop.crap.
 
Stop your nonsense.
If you are not afford to DTH Prices then stop using it or Don't subscribe it.

DTH Business is certainly a costly affair.

how dare you call me nonsense.if you want to earn money then earn money from TS.why you are posting here.if you are unhappy then ask admin to close the thread.
 
DTH is specially expensive in India because of the multiple language channels the provider has to broadcast most of which will only be seen in specific regions.
 
Lets not get personal here. I am not defending anyone as well. As I have said, I too would like cheaper DTH. As far as business models are concerned, its for their CEOs to decide. OSWAI - OSWAL (whatever this mystery is) , if you don't like their prices, just move to cable or doordarshan, you will get it for free. There is no point using DTH, paying for it and then abusing it. You are using it on your own free will. Nobody has forced you. 😛
 
Tata Sky supports offering Rs.5/- per channel as in CAS. It says when every other contents etc are same the price must also be same. Here are the extracts

CHAPTER III: ISSUES RAISED BY M/S. TATA SKY LTD.
3.1 As already mentioned in Chapter – I, the Authority has initiated the present consultation process in order to comply with the directions of the Hon’ble Punjab & Haryana High Court as per their judgment dated 21st August, 2008 and the order passed on 9th December, 2008 while disposing of C.M. No. 18017 of 2008 in W.P. No. 16097 of 2007. The Hon’ble Punjab & Haryana High Court gave a direction to the Authority that “…in case the petitioners file a comprehensive representation before the TRAI within two weeks from today, the respondents shall decide the same within a period of six weeks thereafter and while deciding the representation, all aspects as raised in the present writ petition as also in the representation would be considered by the competent authority.”
3.2 M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. have only filed a copy of their earlier representation dated 18th March, 2008 and requested the Authority for treating the same as a fresh representation in the context of the above order. The representation received from M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. is annexed as Annexure – V to this consultation paper. M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. have sought regulatory intervention to fix content tariffs for DTH in line with tariff fixation for similar addressable systems like CAS. M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. have raised the issue of level playing field conditions for DTH platform. It has been stated by M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. that in order to develop the capacity to cater to the divergent demands of consumers, at reasonable affordable prices, a DTH operator requires the following essential requisites:-
• Availability of popular content at reasonable prices.
• Flexibility to DTH operator to package popular content for mass scale consumption.
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• Flexibility to package channels of different broadcasters and maximizing choice to the consumers
3.3 M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. have also pointed out the difference between the CAS rate and the then DTH RIO rate of ETC Punjabi channel in their representation. It has been submitted by M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. that a-la-carte prices now offered in the DTH RIOs are substantially higher than the existing prices being offered to DTH platforms prior to the RIOs. M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. have claimed that availability of same/ similar content at different prices on different distribution platforms is a facet of discriminatory pricing. It has been claimed that consequence of the RIO would result in higher cost to a DTH subscriber.
3.4 M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. have compared DTH service with addressable cable TV services in CAS areas and claimed that the fundamental attributes of both the systems are similar. M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. have alleged that absence of wholesale content tariff regulation for DTH platform is creating a significant entry barrier for DTH and also creating pricing and packaging disadvantages vis-à-vis CAS operators.
3.5 The directions of Hon’ble Punjab & Haryana High Court as recorded in the order passed on 9th December, 2008 while disposing of C.M. No. 18017 of 2008 in W.P. No. 16097 of 2007 require the Authority to consider all aspects as raised in the Writ Petition as also in the representation to be filed by M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. A copy of the Writ Petition filed by M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. is annexed as Annexure – II to this consultation paper.
3.6 In the Writ Petition, M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. had sought issue of directions to M/s. ETC. Punjabi and M/s. Zee Turner Ltd. to make available the ETC. Punjabi channel on the DTH platform of M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. apart from seeking directions to the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India to discharge its obligations under the TRAI Act to ensure level playing field conditions including fixing content tariffs for DTH and to ensure that similarly placed systems, namely CAS and DTH are treated equally and viewers/ subscribers of these systems/ platforms are not denied popular content, due to anti-competitive practices or otherwise.
3.7 M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. have raised the issue of level playing field between the two addressable platforms, namely CAS and DTH. A reference has also been made to para 5.26 of CAS tariff order dated 31st August, 2006 wherein, it was, inter alia, stated that the prices on two addressable platforms should normally be same, if other conditions are uniform. The issue of offering of channels by the broadcasters only in the form of bouquets has also been raised in the petition. M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. have also referred to the observation of Hon’ble TDSAT in the case of M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. Vs. M/s. Zee Turner Ltd. in its order dated 31.3.2007 stating that TRAI should come out with price fixation and regulation as early as possible. M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. have alleged that non availability of ETC. Punjabi channel on the DTH platform of M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. is contrary to the mandate of Interconnection Regulations.
3.8 It has also been alleged in the petition that the amendment dated 3rd September, 2007 to the Interconnection Regulations and the Quality of Service Regulations for DTH issued on 31st August, 2007 do not address the issues raised in the petition and do not facilitate level playing field conditions.
3.9 The petition states that the regulator should have taken into account the ground realities of vertical monopoly in the industry and rampant under-declaration in the cable industry. It also referred to the consultation paper dated March 2, 2007 and the fact that the issue of DTH commercial pricing was not covered in the same.
3.10 To sum up, the request made by M/s. Tata Sky Ltd. in its representation, is for fixation of wholesale rate of pay channels at Rs. 2.25 per channel per subscriber per month at par with CAS or 20% of the prevailing “cable a-la-carte rate”, subject to an overall ceiling. It has been further stated that an analysis of RIOs submitted by the broadcasters clearly demonstrates the deployment and use of onerous and unjustifiable conditions and exorbitant pricing.

Note : I have in my suggestions mentioned the rate as 30% here Tatasky mentions it as 20%.

link to the web page of TRAI -annexure v (tatasky petition referred above as annexure v)

http://www.trai.gov.in/WriteReadData/trai/upload/ConsultationPapers/170/Annex5.pdfrelevant
 
For Pay channels if the DTH companies charge Rs.5 + taxes it would be great..............
 

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