Airtel Movies now available on Airtel Broadband (Powered by BigFlix)

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this is getting serious

first airtel makes a deal with youtube to use peering thereby waiving fup

and now this
The service would be powered by BigFlix. With this, customers can enjoy over 500 Movies along with 100 TV shows, 100 trailers and 100 music videos @just INR 229/month on their computer/laptop/tablet at home. The service can also be accessed on WiFi and movies can be enjoyed anywhere in the house. Whats more-the enjoyment is totally advertising-free and adds absolutely nothing towards bandwidth consumption charges.

this is internet bandwidth discrimination and violating of net neutraltiy.

Not even netflix USA is doing this.

netflix usa needs bandwidth and streams only if you have
"Netflix recommends that people stream its movies over a broadband connection with a speed of at least 1.5 megabits per second (1.5Mbps), and that people use an Internet connection of at least 3 megabits per second to get better-looking video on par with a DVD."


But airtel just like with their broadband tv and ipl matches are violating this as they are increasing speeds only on thier service

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More info is needed on their streaming requirement but if they say that you can watch streaming on 256k with dvd quality then that is violating of net neutrality.

Airtel has started to make internet cable tv system but here thier own traffic would be prioritized.
 
if they are streaming from localized servers, i guess they can get around the network neutrality thing which is not even a law in our lovely country. if airtel is indeed streaming from the regular bigflix servers, it is a bad idea.
 
and look at this discrimination
*The bandwidth consumption for watching ‘Airtel Movies’ will not add to the customers’ Broadband Plan data usage, except for users in Punjab.

And no they cant get around network neutrality as they are prioritizing their traffic over others thereby violating a level playing field.

here some explanation
 
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is that you admin or a corporate PR?
 

you still have not given me any proof on network neutrality having a legal stand in india. i am all for it but from what i see we do not have any law related to it.

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from what i see you need to target the government/trai first to establish some network neutrality laws before claiming that ISPs are in violation of some legal requirement.

of course, you would love to have network neutrality as a human right but apparently it is not one for the time being.
 
ah well. the service is powered by BigFlix so you can already check them out on the Bigflix website. the difference here is that the bandwidth consumed would not be counted in your bill.
 
ok admin here you go
http://www.trai.gov.in/WriteReadData/trai/upload/ConsultationPapers/101/consultation27dec06.pdf

2006
3.6 ISSUE OF NET NEUTRALITY:
3.6.1 Network neutrality is the principle that Internet users should be
able to access all content they view and all applications they use
on the Internet without being discriminated by Internet service
provider(s)/ access provider(s). The Internet has operated
according to this neutrality principle since its inception. Indeed, it
is this neutrality that has allowed many companies (application
service providers, content providers etc.) to launch, grow, and
innovate. Fundamentally, net neutrality is about equal access to
the Internet. In US, Network operators want to charge Internet
content providers for enhanced IP services, while Net neutrality
proponents say regulations are needed to prevent abuse by the
Net's gatekeepers. There have already been instances of Internet
providers blocking access to Internet applications that allow you
to access your company's network, share files with peers - even
send large attachments (like digital photos) in your
email. Internet providers are not prohibited from discriminating
against the content available using their services; therefore they
could legally restrict access to any website or Internet application
they choose whenever it suits their bottom-line economic. The
broadband carriers want US Congress's permission to determine
what content gets to you first and fastest.
3.6.2 The situation may also rise in India as Internet access providers
may use their market power to discriminate against competing
applications and/or contents.
3.6.3 The issue of net neutrality in the long term can threaten
popularity of Public Internet based Internet telephony and similar
other applications as all the intermediate Internet providers may
start asking commercial agreements in absence of which they
may refuse to carry the content and provide desired quality of
service. The future developments are likely to have new
applications and contents. The business models of ISPs are
concentrated around useful application. In this background views
of stake holders are required whether regulatory intervention is
needed to ensure net neutrality in India in times to come or it
may be left to market forces.
 
In this background views
of stake holders are required whether regulatory intervention is
needed to ensure net neutrality in India in times to come or it
may be left to market forces.

and what does it change?
 
http://www.trai.gov.in/WriteReadData/trai/upload/ConsultationPapers/107/comments6feb07CN.pdf

TRIKON ELECTRONICS
Net neutrality should be mandated not to protect stand alone service providers, but to protect
consumer choice. It should be codified and upheld.
Skype
1. As we mentioned when discussing 2.16.13, it is not clear to us why any licence should be
required to allow access to specific types of Internet content or applications. There
should be no restriction placed on what a user can access over the Internet, nor should
there be any restriction on what an ISP can offer its users. In return, for the user, an
explicit regulatory obligation should be placed on ISPs and network operators not to
restrict what content, services and applications its users can access (so called “network
neutrality” principle). These two actions would ensure that ISPs are able to offer their
own voice services, if so desired, and users are able to choose which voice products or
services (including self-providing applications). In developed countries, the former is
commonplace and the latter is either taken for granted (e.g. in the EU regulatory
framework) or subject to issued guidelines (the FCC’s “four Internet freedoms”).
It could be considered to go further and remove all licensing requirements from ISPs,
merely subjecting them to notification and minimum regulatory requirements, including
consumer protection, quality of service information, complaints procedure, network
neutrality obligations, and so on. TRAI’s role would be to ensure compliance with the
regulations; ISPs which did not notify would be closed down. Those which did notify but
did not comply would be subject to sanctions deemed appropriate by TRAI. A light
touch framework would bring the benefits to the market and to consumers, as TRAI
desires. It has been seen to work in other countries (the UK is a good example).

MICROSOFT
It could be considered to go further and remove all licensing requirements from ISPs,
merely subjecting them to notification and minimum regulatory requirements, including
consumer protection, quality of service information, complaints procedure, network
neutrality obligations, and so on. TRAI’s role would be to ensure compliance with the
regulations; ISPs which did not notify would be closed down. Those which did notify but
did not comply would be subject to sanctions deemed appropriate by TRAI. A light
touch framework would bring the benefits to the market and to consumers, as TRAI
desires. It has been seen to work in other countries (the UK is a good example).

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Net Neutrality
TRAI has already issued recommendations to ensure that there is a certain minimum quality
of service for customers. REACH supports the right of network operators to implement
differentiated services to provide service quality in excess of these minimum standards for
selected customers to improve return on investment.
 
All I see is just recommendations and suggestions. Nothing that can be established as a legal ground.
 
but you are right we have no laws and TRAI cant even fine as they dont have any enforcement powers.Isps just have to give $$$$$ to TRAI to get their way.We need to gut up and go together and sit on their next consultation debate.
 
now you are on the right path. we cannot really complain about airtel offering preferential services till the time indian government establishes the network neutrality laws. and that is unlikely to happen with the kind of power our ISPs have.
 

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