Need Advice from MTNL Mumbai users

nickd

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Hi,

I am currently on DSL_Unlimited_995_Combo. (Rent Free Phone with no calls included) @ INR 995 a month
Initially when bought, it was 1 Mbps unlimited fixed day/night down and up of 0.5 Mbps day/night. (NO FUP AT ALL)
Now 6 months later they have upgraded it to 1 Mbps unlimited fixed day, 2 Mbps unlimited night and upload of 0.5 Mbps day/night. (NO FUP AT ALL)

I'm presently quite happy as Night is now 2 Mbps. For now its okay, best bang for the buck for me at 1K INR.

Speed Test Below @ 1.15AM Night Speed 23rd November 2012
http://www.speedtest.net

Now, I want to upgrade to a better speed connection from MTNL.

Currently, I have two choices.

A) Upgrade the DSL plan to this , Xpress Non Combo Unlimited 2000 (Add 200 or 250 INR + maybe for Telephone rent or something, not sure) @ 2000 to 2250 INR a month.
2 Mbps + unlimited fixed day/night down of 150 GB FUP per Month, 1.13 Mbps fixed day/night down NO FUP afterwards and upload of 0.5 Mbps day/night. (150GB FUP And then 1.13 Mbps NO FUP AT ALL)

Now, As you may see from the speed above at night-time, I understand I'm not entitled to 2Mbps+ even in the night as it's just an extra speed they are providing for night-time.
I can't really complain as the deal is 1 Mbps, but now they offer at night 2 Mbps which is about 1.45~1.75 Mbps to be approx, not close to 2 Mbps.

So, but increasing the plan and fee to +1-1.25K INR from presently, I may be able to upgrade to double the speed. I will be happy with 2 Mbps+ and 150GB FUP a month. I'm a heavy torrent downloaded too in some months, but I don't think to the mark of 150GB+ a month, so this should be sufficient. I'm really more excited if surfing, gaming ping and also YouTube & streaming videos will be faster than what i have now. I'm not sure with gaming ping increase as it has more to do with connectivity latency rather than bandwidth speed, so it may be the same but I'm okay with MTNL's below 30 ping for Indian gaming servers on steam.

Overall the upgrade will make me get 1 Mbps more and I have to pay 1000 to 1250 INR more, so its double the speed for the double the fee upgrade, using my same phone and DSL modem + setup etc.

B) Upgrade to FTTH plan and this one, Fibre Thrill 2590 (Add 200 or 250 INR + rent to also have my existing land-line for phone calls without the DSL, not sure of the rent)
20 Mbps + unlimited fixed day/night down & 10 Mbps upload total of 150 GB FUP per Month, afterwards 1.35 Mbps unlimited fixed day/night down & 1 Mbps upload NO FUP (150GB FUP And then 1.35 Mbps NO FUP AT ALL)

So, but increasing the plan and fee to +1.60-1.85K from presently, I may be able to upgrade to 19 times the speed. Off-course this is a dream speed for Indian Retail Standards so You can Imagine all the bells and whistles with the Internet experience on this and I'm sure the pings will be below 30 or maybe less who knows.

This is a thrilling deal compared to the first, but the problem is I don't live in a building, I live in a 2 floor house of Mhada colony and secondly, I'm not sure if its available. The Charkop Telephone Exchange is just less than 2 Kms away from here.
Also, I may need to Spend an additional 2,000 INR for setup and Fiber Modem, which is okay for the one-time.

So, on one hand I don't need to upgrade any equipment, just change the plan and I will get double the speed to 2 Mbps and Double the fee of 2000 INR & on other hand I will get 19 times the speed and Double and a half the fee of 2600 INR + Installation of 2000 one time.

Second Deal sounds good, But I think the Fiber is still in its infancy here in Mumbai and I may not be able to get it setup on the fly as just going and changing my DSL plan. If anyone in Mumbai or Charkop has taken FTTH plan please let me know.
Also if any of you guys are on the 2 Mbps express plans of DSL with MTNL, would like to know if the speed is as promised or better. Or if it will be just like that like my night-time speed promised 2 Mbps but getting 1.45~1.75 Mbps actual.

Lastly, Also if we do a rough calculation based on 150 GB FUP vs the Speed of the internet & Time for enjoying high-speed.

2 Mbps is approx 200 kbps download.

So 150 GB x 1024 = 153600 MB x 1024 = 157286400 KB
157286400 KB divide by 200 kbps download (2 Mbps Speed) = 786432 seconds divide by 60 = 13107.2 minutes divide by 60 = 219 hours divide by 24 = 9.11 Days worth of continuous torrent download to Deplete the 150 GB FUP.

20 Mbps is approx 2000 kbps or real 2 mbps download.

So So 150 GB x 1024 = 153600 MB
153600 MB divide by 2 mbps download (20 Mbps Speed) = 76800 seconds divide by 60 = 1280 minutes divide by 60 = 21.4 hours, which is obviously not even a complete day of continuous torrent download to Deplete the 150 GB FUP.

So, Is again the speed worth the FUP and the amount of time we may be able enjoy before its depleted for the month??

Then After FUP the NO FUP period

2 Mbps becomes 1.13 Mbps ( About 0.13 Mbps more than my max speed currently)
Upload is the same 0.50 Mbps (Same as currently)

20 Mbps becomes 1.35 Mbps (About 0.35 Mbps more than my max speed currently)
Upload becomes 1 Mbps (0.50 Mbps more than my max speed currently)

So I get for between 1000 INR upgrade and 1600 INR upgrade, the real unlimited speed gains after FUP in download of .13~.35 Mbps unlimited and upload speed of 0~.50 Mbps unlimited.

If I only wanted to download 150 GB on current 1 Mbps day and 1.45~1.75 Mbps at night with the 995 INR plan. It would be about half the amount of time extra on the first upgrade (Since Night is faster than day on currently) would be..
9.11 days divide by 2 and multiply by 3 = 13.67 days. Just 4.55 days more of waiting or keeping my machine "ON" to get 150 GB without any upgrade.

And the then the second upgrade would be about 12 days more to download the 150 GB as the 20 Mbps would deplete 150 GB is less than 24 hours.

Hmm, Is it all worth it?

Okay if I only intend to surf, play games & watch YouTube and Streaming videos but not download, Its a seems good deal for upgrade A and Great deal for Upgrade B.
But if I do decide to download, doesn't it seem really not worth the money for the FUP they have installed?? I'd only save four days of electricity on paying 1000 INR more and 12 days of electricity paying 1600 more, and I don't think unless your playing Games 24 hours for 14 days on a stretch, which would use up 500 Watts excess continuous would really affect my bill by 1k or even 1.6k INR to have the pc "ON" for 4 days to 12 days just for downloading 150 GB's??

Please let me know your views, feedback's or if you have any suggestions. All welcomed and appreciated!!

Regards,
Nick

PS: I'm paying additional 750 INR for reliance netconnect+ 2 Mbps speed and 5GB FUP & 0.14 Kbps NO FUP wireless internet too as a backup. (Only for Backup internet, not for real usage.)
 

amish

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You have written a too big post.Ask ur question in simple form in a paragraph.
 

popcorn

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sorry nickd... did not read your big post...here you can reduce it to yr actual problem/question... rest we understand.....
 


nickd

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I'm trying to decide an upgrade to a better MTNL plan... I'm just confused whether they are worth it or not...Simple.. :)
 

Sushubh

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no one else can decided for you if a plan is worth it (for you). you have to see if the price is worth it for the speed and data mtnl is offering.
 

nickd

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no one else can decided for you if a plan is worth it (for you). you have to see if the price is worth it for the speed and data mtnl is offering.

Yesterday Night I made a lot of calculations for all the MTNL plans they offer, both for DSL as well as FTTH.
It seems all the plans are carefully constructed according to the amount of bandwidth and how much data you're able to download totally in a day and over the month.
Very much like fool-proof plans in MTNL.

For Example, In my plan DSL 995 Combo, they offered the 1 Mbps day (14 hours) & 2 Mbps Night (8 hours) , So the calculation is that I'll be able to download 5.5 GB approx in day & 5.5 GB approx in Night, Total 11 GB in 24 hours of a day and approx 330 GB a month.

Then a plan like 20 Mbps unlimited FTTH for which they are charging 55,000 INR a month, it goes to approx 5 TB a month.
All the plan pricing, the speed's and FUP's etc on MTNL are very much designed like for the amount of data you'll be able to download totally in a day and a month or so...

Anyways, My advice needed is that I want to see if I'm able to upgrade my current plan to a better one..
After yesterday night's rigorous calculation, the DSL 1599 Plan seems to be the most reasonable for the quick upgrade vs reasonable pricing vs amount of data more that may be able to be downloaded a day/month.

Otherwise for higher-end, the 2 Mbps unlimited for 4999 a month on DSL doesn't look that good as upload in all DSL plans are 0.5 Mbps compared to the same pricing 2 Mbps plan on FTTH unlimited that allows 1 Mbps upload.

I think for the best of best as well as cheapest for high end bandwidth is the DSL 9999 plan (10,000 a month) with 4 Mbps download and 0.5 Mbps uploading and unlimited.
Other than that the FTTH plans for 10 Mbps & 20 Mbps unlimited are really very expensive to be affordable for a Home & Home Office user.

Regards,
Nick from Amchi Mumbai...
 


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Two things - first, I doubt you'll get ftth.Second, on adsl, you won't get 2mbps, until they correct your line rate, ie if you switch to the 150gb 2mbps fup plan, you'll still get a max of 1.75mbps, unless and until they increase your line rate.
 

nickd

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Two things - first, I doubt you'll get ftth.
Second, on adsl, you won't get 2mbps, until they correct your line rate, ie if you switch to the 150gb 2mbps fup plan, you'll still get a max of 1.75mbps, unless and until they increase your line rate.

I'm getting max of 2 Mbps @ Night on Torrents, Just the Speed-test doesn't go there.

Speed-Test
http://www.speedtest.net

Torrent Download Speed


My Impression is that... If i have 1 Mbps day and it gives me instead 1.20~1.30 Mbps & 2 Mbps @ Night that gives me 1.80~2.10 Mbps

Then If i simply pay 600 INR more for DSL 1599 Plan, which should be Day 1.344 Mbps, Evening 1.792 Mbps & Night 2 Mbps.
It should do me 1.50~1.70 Mbps Day, Evening 1.90~2.10 Mbps & Night 2-2.10 Mbps ???

So currently my download capacity @ Stock Speeds are.
Day 1 Mbps (16 Hours) = 5.5 GB approx
Night 2 Mbps (8 Hours) = 5.5 GB approx
Total of 11 GB per 24 hours.
Total of 330 GB per Month (30 Days)

And if I upgrade to DSL 1599, Download capacity @ Stock Speeds are

Day 1.34 Mbps (10 Hours) = 4.60 GB Approx
Evening 1.792 Mbps (6 Hours) = 3.68 GB Approx
Night 2 Mbps (8 Hours) = 5.5 GB Approx
Total of 13.78 GB per 24 Hours
Total of 413 GB per Month (30 Days)

So getting 2.78 GB+ a day & 83 GB+ a month??
 

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