Btcache in Kolkata. ISP's offering high download speeds

Siddhartha Dutta

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A few corrections - the guys behind Extreme Networks are Bulgarian but that's about it - the technology wasn't invented by them. Also, Bulgaria is among the top in the world for Internet speeds, very near Romania which is home to the fastest city in Europe (Constanta), and with very cheap prices (per megabit) - but not as a result of torrent caching.Also, 5PB would equal at about 1,250 servers worth of storage... just a tad more than most ISPs have. Most of the arrays I've priced are capable of around 60TB in a single cluster, or some 15 2U servers (basically, a rack).Otherwise the rest is pretty good.
 

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A few corrections - the guys behind Extreme Networks are Bulgarian but that's about it - the technology wasn't invented by them.

Also, Bulgaria is among the top in the world for Internet speeds, very near Romania which is home to the fastest city in Europe (Constanta), and with very cheap prices (per megabit) - but not as a result of torrent caching.

Also, 5PB would equal at about 1,250 servers worth of storage... just a tad more than most ISPs have. Most of the arrays I've priced are capable of around 60TB in a single cluster, or some 15 2U servers (basically, a rack).

Otherwise the rest is pretty good.

Will Hayai's peering work like that? I mean are you guys gonna ask those Bulgarian guys at Extreme Peering? Or will you do it in some other way?
 


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A few corrections - the guys behind Extreme Networks are Bulgarian but that's about it - the technology wasn't invented by them.

Also, Bulgaria is among the top in the world for Internet speeds, very near Romania which is home to the fastest city in Europe (Constanta), and with very cheap prices (per megabit) - but not as a result of torrent caching.

Also, 5PB would equal at about 1,250 servers worth of storage... just a tad more than most ISPs have. Most of the arrays I've priced are capable of around 60TB in a single cluster, or some 15 2U servers (basically, a rack).

Otherwise the rest is pretty good.

Yeah I know the guys behind extreme peering are from Bulguria.They started their business by tieing up with ANI networks in Delhi, Alliance in Kolkata and Railtel in Bangalore.I know two of them very well Plamen Petkov and Victor Francess and they have been freindly in answering queries.

5PB was a maybe point. According to Victor Alliance has 30TB NAS setup for this
 

ramvijay

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im from hyderabad, my isp is Beam. i c btcache too. my cousin from Gurgaon also using btcache. now i understand y is it so fast. v.v. coooool!
 

mgcarley

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Will Hayai's peering work like that? I mean are you guys gonna ask those Bulgarian guys at Extreme Peering? Or will you do it in some other way?

They are very very interested in working with us - I met them in February when they last came to Mumbai. Fivenet is also getting this (or has got, I haven't checked the status).

As of now, however, it doesn't, and the torrent speeds people get are just due to the amount of available bandwidth (so, their solution will save me bandwidth). The main difference between us and other ISPs is that we're facilitating user-user transfers as well, not necessarily having a SAN, so this solution will add to the things that we're implementing to make the network as speedy and congestion-free as possible.

Yeah I know the guys behind extreme peering are from Bulguria.They started their business by tieing up with ANI networks in Delhi, Alliance in Kolkata and Railtel in Bangalore.I know two of them very well Plamen Petkov and Victor Francess and they have been freindly in answering queries.

5PB was a maybe point. According to Victor Alliance has 30TB NAS setup for this

Sounds a bit better.
 


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According to Victor Alliance has 30TB NAS setup for this

So is it the total capacity of btcache peer? Does that means only 30TB of data are there which can be downloaded at high speed? 30TB is very less, as there may be many similar files of different quality like (TV shows), etc..

And also the first user to download a file (not stored on btcache) gets low speed right? Is that first user has to be a Alliance user? I don't quite get it.. Exactly how many people are there using Alliance Broadband? If only Alliance users contribute in peering than there couldn't be too much of data for us to enjoy in peering right?
 

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So is it the total capacity of btcache peer? Does that means only 30TB of data are there which can be downloaded at high speed? 30TB is very less, as there may be many similar files of different quality like (TV shows), etc..

30TB isn't bad, actually - that equates to nearly 100mbit/s of bandwidth, which is a net saving of several lakh rupees, which allows them to keep prices down. Plus, it's dynamic - old content that isn't getting accessed anymore gets purged to make way for new stuff.

And also the first user to download a file (not stored on btcache) gets low speed right? Is that first user has to be a Alliance user? I don't quite get it.. Exactly how many people are there using Alliance Broadband? If only Alliance users contribute in peering than there couldn't be too much of data for us to enjoy in peering right?

Yes, Alliance's installation is for Alliance users benefit, not the benefit of people on other ISPs. In theory only Alliance users are supposed to be able to access it, but in some setups I'm not so sure.

The company does sell it's platform to other ISPs, including Beam, Act, Fivenet and others so ISPs who have got the system in their networks can also give their users a good experience. Airtel, BSNL, MTNL & Reliance could *really* use this system on a large scale but... yeah.
 

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Well this 30TB is actually when for the first time Alliance started btcache, that is 11months ago, I guess by the time being they have upgraded the Network Storage when users started to flood. Its actually network storage hard drives attached to racks with greater transfer speeds. Something like this I Guess Correct Me If I am Wrong

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With the increase in content I think now they have added more NAS to their racks. And also for the first when user is downloading a file if at the same time other users also downloading the same movie or file then every users get increased download speeds.Its like i download some chunks and share at Lan speed in torrent to other Alliance user and he does the same vice versa. Everytime btcache is not needed. And if any user seeds a particular torrent who is on the same network then also user will get above 800KBps transfer rate on Utorrent even if it isn't in caching

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Plus, it's dynamic - old content that isn't getting accessed anymore gets purged to make way for new stuff.

Yeah Pretty much true :Boy Thumb Up: But they have a seperate movie server filmocean.net which is visible through any ISP but download button only gets visible in Alliance and every movie is present there whether its old or new. Download is through torrent so that they dont face legal issues and in peers only alliance btcache ips will be visible like 10.240.254.xx.They have seperate NASes with private ips allocated for storing those movies.
 

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30TB isn't bad, actually - that equates to nearly 100mbit/s of bandwidth, which is a net saving of several lakh rupees, which allows them to keep prices down. Plus, it's dynamic - old content that isn't getting accessed anymore gets purged to make way for new stuff.



Yes, Alliance's installation is for Alliance users benefit, not the benefit of people on other ISPs. In theory only Alliance users are supposed to be able to access it, but in some setups I'm not so sure.

The company does sell it's platform to other ISPs, including Beam, Act, Fivenet and others so ISPs who have got the system in their networks can also give their users a good experience. Airtel, BSNL, MTNL & Reliance could *really* use this system on a large scale but... yeah.

May be not bad, but honestly 30TB could be filled up in not too much time.. How do they manage up when the server gets filled up? Alliance has been offering this (peering plans) for quite sometime now, I have gone through the forum and in not much time found most users to download 100's of GB in a month.. If you do the math, 30TB could be filled up in a flash.. Do they delete old data off the server to balance the limits? I haven't seen Meghbela offer peering plans :confused:


@Siddhartha Dutta You seem to be decent downloader on your own, tell me the probability of you searching and downloading something you need and then you found out that the file is peered?