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Aadhaar Judgement by Supreme Court of India
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and then there is this news...
Aadhaar linking deadline for services to be extended to March 31 - The Hindu
Aadhaar linking deadline for services to be extended to March 31 - The Hindu
dextermorgan
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CB- constitutional bench ?
from the looks of it, people with aadhaar are more or less screwed.
government would extend the deadline tomorrow but it is very likely they would extend it only for non-aadhaar holders.
court would have to give an independent order about mobile linkage which has a deadline of feb 6 as government cannot change it on their own (even though original order did not specifically said link with aadhaar).
not sure if courts would entertain demand for extension of deadline for aadhaar holders as well.
government would extend the deadline tomorrow but it is very likely they would extend it only for non-aadhaar holders.
court would have to give an independent order about mobile linkage which has a deadline of feb 6 as government cannot change it on their own (even though original order did not specifically said link with aadhaar).
not sure if courts would entertain demand for extension of deadline for aadhaar holders as well.
demonicult
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Such a terrible state we are in.
this is where the people fucked themselves. they rushed to banks and mobile operators to link their aadhaar. if everyone waited till the very last week, the system would have collapsed and the government would have to give up. but nope. fear. government used fear and now it claims that people did it willingly happily.
dextermorgan
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^ I mean can you blame the people? any errors on pension account means no money for that month. its literally life and death for many people
the percentage of people who connected aadhaar to x service because service was denied is going to be very miniscule.
my dad applied for aadhaar when sbi denied life certificate last year. but he did file a complaint with sbi and got a positive response.
sure most people cannot afford to wait for a few days to get resolution from the higher ups. but majority of connections are being made willingly. people doing it out of choice. without realizing the choice they have. or the risk that comes with the connectivity.
sadly, all this protest is going to end up with little resolution. people with aadhaar would have to link before december in any case. and people without aadhaar are going to suffer from coercion because it is just not feasible for everyone to take a legal route to tackle illegal blocking of services.
i got out of icici bank at a good time. yes bank has not denied me any service. few messages here and there. i visited icici with dad earlier today and it almost felt like you could not get anything done without aadhaar with them.
sc gets most of the blame. passing confusing orders. not taking immediate action against government for misinterpreting their orders intentionally. delaying the hearing for years now. allowing government to get away with linkage (with pan) in some cases. not even providing relief when it is clear that they cannot hear the aadhaar case before the deadlines arrive. the whole affair makes you believe that you are not only fighting the government but also the courts. government has the upper hand everywhere. even the privacy committee has members who are all pro-aadhaar. some are even in uidai management even though they should have zero say in official government policies. but that's how it is.
my dad applied for aadhaar when sbi denied life certificate last year. but he did file a complaint with sbi and got a positive response.
sure most people cannot afford to wait for a few days to get resolution from the higher ups. but majority of connections are being made willingly. people doing it out of choice. without realizing the choice they have. or the risk that comes with the connectivity.
sadly, all this protest is going to end up with little resolution. people with aadhaar would have to link before december in any case. and people without aadhaar are going to suffer from coercion because it is just not feasible for everyone to take a legal route to tackle illegal blocking of services.
i got out of icici bank at a good time. yes bank has not denied me any service. few messages here and there. i visited icici with dad earlier today and it almost felt like you could not get anything done without aadhaar with them.
sc gets most of the blame. passing confusing orders. not taking immediate action against government for misinterpreting their orders intentionally. delaying the hearing for years now. allowing government to get away with linkage (with pan) in some cases. not even providing relief when it is clear that they cannot hear the aadhaar case before the deadlines arrive. the whole affair makes you believe that you are not only fighting the government but also the courts. government has the upper hand everywhere. even the privacy committee has members who are all pro-aadhaar. some are even in uidai management even though they should have zero say in official government policies. but that's how it is.
dextermorgan
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I don't know tbh. Every one near me linked out of fear (due to strict harsh communication from banks/telecos/school managements etc)
students were sent home saying they won't be allowed inside without adhaar. You can't take new school admissions without adhaar. no adhaar no hospital services. fucked up
looks like few good souls who are against adhaar are fighting both government AND SC.
And just to refresh, USA had proposal to link biometrics to social security numbers (SSN) this year but backed off becasue of privacy concerns. so fucked up. and people here likened adhaar to SSN
students were sent home saying they won't be allowed inside without adhaar. You can't take new school admissions without adhaar. no adhaar no hospital services. fucked up
looks like few good souls who are against adhaar are fighting both government AND SC.
And just to refresh, USA had proposal to link biometrics to social security numbers (SSN) this year but backed off becasue of privacy concerns. so fucked up. and people here likened adhaar to SSN
demonicult
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It isn't just fear I think. Yes, many ran to get it linked after they received threatening SMSes and calls but they also did because of the lack of the awareness or understanding how this could possibly affect their life and their privacy.
@dextermorgan True. People don't really understand the reaches of aadhar and the data it could gather.
It is very difficult to explain people the value of their data, privacy and right to fight to keep it private. Everytime I try to tell people how terrible everything could fall apart they just say this is all theories and assumptions. They fail to understand the gravity of how terrible this could be in the wrong hands.
And the worst part is there is no one to help if that thing happens, govt. isn't going to support or help out something whos data is leaked because of lapse in their security as there is no law that holds govt. responsible for such things.
And as @Sushubh said it isn't really feasible for everyone to fight against all this because time,money and resources are all wasted on this and not everyone can afford all that in such a volatile economy. So people simply give and ultimately we who haven't linked will have to eventually do that else might be labelled criminals acting against the law.
We (Indians) fear legal authority for some reason. Even if we haven't done anything wrong, the lack of awareness of our own rights puts us in a position where we are unable to do things calmly and logically. Thinking we are powerless against them and what they say or ask us to do is to be done without questioning them.
@dextermorgan True. People don't really understand the reaches of aadhar and the data it could gather.
It is very difficult to explain people the value of their data, privacy and right to fight to keep it private. Everytime I try to tell people how terrible everything could fall apart they just say this is all theories and assumptions. They fail to understand the gravity of how terrible this could be in the wrong hands.
And the worst part is there is no one to help if that thing happens, govt. isn't going to support or help out something whos data is leaked because of lapse in their security as there is no law that holds govt. responsible for such things.
And as @Sushubh said it isn't really feasible for everyone to fight against all this because time,money and resources are all wasted on this and not everyone can afford all that in such a volatile economy. So people simply give and ultimately we who haven't linked will have to eventually do that else might be labelled criminals acting against the law.
We (Indians) fear legal authority for some reason. Even if we haven't done anything wrong, the lack of awareness of our own rights puts us in a position where we are unable to do things calmly and logically. Thinking we are powerless against them and what they say or ask us to do is to be done without questioning them.
demonicult
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