2500Rs per ticket! 😕 not for me.....is this circuit an indian one or owned privately?!
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I seriously hope Mallya doesn't sell. His team is fast improving and they need someone like him who can keep pumping in the money. Plus the craze of F1 is about to get much bigger with the Indian Grand Prix just around the corner.
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Button wins the race.
Vettel wins the championship.
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1 Button McLaren 53 3 2 Alonso Ferrari 53 3 3 Vettel Red Bull 53 3 4 Webber Red Bull 53 3 5 Hamilton McLaren 53 3 6 Schumacher Mercedes-Benz 53 3 7 Massa Ferrari 53 3 8 Perez Sauber 53 2 9 Petrov Renault 53 2 10 Rosberg Mercedes-Benz 53 3 11 Sutil Force India 53 3 12 di Resta Force India 53 3 13 Kobayashi Sauber 53 2 14 Maldonado Williams 53 3 15 Alguersuari Toro Rosso 53 2 16 Senna Renault 53 2 17 Barrichello Williams 53 3 18 Kovalainen Lotus 53 3 19 Trulli Lotus 53 3 20 Glock Virgin 51 3 21 d'Ambrosio Virgin 51 3 22 Ricciardo HRT 51 3 23 Liuzzi HRT 50 3Vettel wins the championship.
from what i remember, he followed the money to drive for ferrari. he left a good team for a struggling team and his team continues to struggle. a good driver helps the team reach the top. not join a team on the top to win while the fortunes are good. this is why vettel deserves every championship he gets at redbull. and alonso can keep his ferrari contract and lick it everyday for the next couple of years.
Which good team are you talking about? He went to Mclaren from renault in 2007 which is a very good team & was the fastest in 2007, but he did not get along with hamilton and Ron dennis who clearly favoured hamilton over alonso, so he left & had to go back to a now struggling Renault , for two years there were no seats available in the top teams for him and Kimi had to be forced out of ferrari to give him a seat.A driver's job is just to get the best out of the car, to get the team to the top is the job of the constructors , Vettel did not take Redbull to where it is today Adrian Newey did.
vettel has stuck with redbull for so many years right? that's what good drivers do. stick with the team for a long time because the combination complements each other. a team without a bad driver cannot make a winning car. this is the sole reason why mercedes has schumacher working for them. they are not looking for short term gains. they know the feedback from schumi would help them in developing a strong car for the future. he made ferrari what it is today though they have been struggling for the last couple of years. as for vettel... and he would probably get a seat in ferrari the day he shows an interest. but he has not shown any interest until now because he knows that this is not the time to leave a winning combination and move to ferrari which is basically something you do when you have accomplished a lot and are looking for a retirement seat. alonso has been a douche who has been involved in two of the biggest scandals of the last 10 years. he does not get along well with a strong team mate and that is why he is at ferrari today as their number one driver with massa being the meek one. the day ferrari gets someone like vettel as their second driver... alonso's seat would be in danger because he would get back to douchery.i was not sure but now that i have checked multiple sources... he won two consecutive championships with renault and jumped to mclaren for a fat paycheck (20 million dollars if i am correct).
well he gained from rosberg not around him coz that could have cost him one more position. 😛his 6th position is the usual position mercedes benz cars get in most races. they do not have the speed. everything else has been just fine.
Vettel did not stick with Redbull , it Redbull that has stuck with vettel , he was a nobody two years back , if redbull wasnt designed by Adrain Newey he would have still been a nobody. Look up Adrian Newey's record , all his cars have won championships even with average drivers like Hill in 96 & Villeneuve in 1997 , then as soon as he joined Mclaren in the end of 97 Mclaren turned from Force INdia level team in 97 to champions in 98 & 99, you dont need good drivers when you have newey.
You say - a team without a bad driver cannot make a winning car. this is the sole reason why mercedes has schumacher working for them. they are not looking for short term gains. they know the feedback from schumi would help them in developing a strong car for the future. he made ferrari what it is today though they have been struggling for the last couple of years.
Micheal Schumacher is in Mercedes purely for commercial reasons because of his brand value , why couldnt ferrari make a good car from 1996 to 1999 for 4 years with him? Ferrari 's success was due to having great designers like rory bryne not due to schumaker .
as for vettel... and he would probably get a seat in ferrari the day he shows an interest. but he has not shown any interest until now because he knows that this is not the time to leave a winning combination and move to ferrari which is basically something you do when you have accomplished a lot and are looking for a retirement seat.
Of course it would be foolish to leave a team thats winning like Redbull but when did Alonso move from a dominating team to slower team for money like you said earlier, If Alonso is a douche then schumaker is miles ahead of him in douchery that doesnt make him any less of a driver ,
It was hamilton & his god father Ron who did not get along with Alonso, he learned to speak Italian & has long term contract with ferrari , there is a very good chance of Newey joining ferrai in future then we will see who is who.
You say - a team without a bad driver cannot make a winning car. this is the sole reason why mercedes has schumacher working for them. they are not looking for short term gains. they know the feedback from schumi would help them in developing a strong car for the future. he made ferrari what it is today though they have been struggling for the last couple of years.
Micheal Schumacher is in Mercedes purely for commercial reasons because of his brand value , why couldnt ferrari make a good car from 1996 to 1999 for 4 years with him? Ferrari 's success was due to having great designers like rory bryne not due to schumaker .
as for vettel... and he would probably get a seat in ferrari the day he shows an interest. but he has not shown any interest until now because he knows that this is not the time to leave a winning combination and move to ferrari which is basically something you do when you have accomplished a lot and are looking for a retirement seat.
Of course it would be foolish to leave a team thats winning like Redbull but when did Alonso move from a dominating team to slower team for money like you said earlier, If Alonso is a douche then schumaker is miles ahead of him in douchery that doesnt make him any less of a driver ,
It was hamilton & his god father Ron who did not get along with Alonso, he learned to speak Italian & has long term contract with ferrari , there is a very good chance of Newey joining ferrai in future then we will see who is who.
i was not even going to respond to this post. schumacher stuck with ferrari for years and years and along with ross brawn and jean todt and gave them their first championship in around 20 years. i do not see alonso staying at ferrari for another 2 years if they do not improve enough to get him his third championship. mercedes probably has the best shot at improvements looking at where they are. mclaren's deal with mercedes is not going to last forever so they might end up becoming another williams on the grid. redbull is the magical team on the grid as they do wonders with the renault engines. ferrari simply does not have the drivers that can help in development of the car. as for alonso, he left renault, joined mclaren and went back to renault because of attitude problems. compare the relationship between webber and vettel with the relationship between alonso and massa. i bet no one on the f1 grid likes alonso today. same is the case with hamilton today... he arrived on the grid as a decent chap. won a championship that went straight into his head and he has joined the extraordinary league of douches since then. 😀and you think michael came back to mercedes for money? seriously? the dude was probably making enough millions to last a lifetime as brand ambassadors for the companies he work with after his retirement... and mercedes has been pretty clear that they needed him for his experience and feedback. of course they had ross brawn there so the decision to join mercedes over any other team was a simple one.
schumacher stuck with ferrari for years and years and along with ross brawn and jean todt and gave them their first championship in around 20 years. i do not see alonso staying at ferrari for another 2 years if they do not improve enough to get him his third championship.
How can you predict the future on what Alonso will do? Ferrari is the most consistent & oldest team on the grid, it is the dream of most drivers to drive for ferrari , Alonso has a contract till 2017 , he will finish his career with ferrari like schumaker did in 06 ,ferrari has not done well since rory bryne left due to cancer but being the team with the biggest budget ferrari will again be back to the top hopefully with newey. Ferrari won those championships mainly due to the cars designed by rory bryne others had very little contribution . These two designer's Bryne & Newey's have always won championships wherever they went , If Alonso & vettel were teammates at redbull then Alonso would have also won in 09 plus the other two championships in "10 & '11.
ferrari simply does not have the drivers that can help in development of the car.
Drivers have very little contribution in developing cars with modern technology, engineers in every team use telemetry to have precise source of information to guide the development of cars.
compare the relationship between webber and vettel with the relationship between alonso and massa
Compare the relationship between fisichela & alonso at renault , he only had a problem with hamilton who himself is controversial and disliked by everyone now & massa also has lots of mental problems specially after that accident in 2009 :courage:
and you think michael came back to mercedes for money?
I never said Michael came back for the money , mercedes have still stuck with him because of his brand value , he is not as good a driver as he was and he has insignificant contribution towards the development of the car.
How can you predict the future on what Alonso will do? Ferrari is the most consistent & oldest team on the grid, it is the dream of most drivers to drive for ferrari , Alonso has a contract till 2017 , he will finish his career with ferrari like schumaker did in 06 ,ferrari has not done well since rory bryne left due to cancer but being the team with the biggest budget ferrari will again be back to the top hopefully with newey. Ferrari won those championships mainly due to the cars designed by rory bryne others had very little contribution . These two designer's Bryne & Newey's have always won championships wherever they went , If Alonso & vettel were teammates at redbull then Alonso would have also won in 09 plus the other two championships in "10 & '11.
ferrari simply does not have the drivers that can help in development of the car.
Drivers have very little contribution in developing cars with modern technology, engineers in every team use telemetry to have precise source of information to guide the development of cars.
compare the relationship between webber and vettel with the relationship between alonso and massa
Compare the relationship between fisichela & alonso at renault , he only had a problem with hamilton who himself is controversial and disliked by everyone now & massa also has lots of mental problems specially after that accident in 2009 :courage:
and you think michael came back to mercedes for money?
I never said Michael came back for the money , mercedes have still stuck with him because of his brand value , he is not as good a driver as he was and he has insignificant contribution towards the development of the car.
Hamilton/Massa is pretty much our generation's Senna/Prost. We should just put these two in a boxing match. I'm also not a fan of Alonso, he's not a saint himself either, despite his issues with Hamilton(being a Mclaren fan, I can admit his prickish attitude). He left Renault for greener pastures and then came crawling back, because he wasn't treated like a king. The "if so and so had that car, he'd win" arguments lack logic. Vettel isn't just winning championships, he's dominating and breaking records. The best way to judge his ability would be to compare him to his partner, who's nowhere near his pace.
I also used too hate Alonso but i became a fan after seeing his driving & fighting spirit coming back from 5th after SPA & almost out to almost winning the championship in 2010 , i was huge fan of Mclaren and started hating Alonso in 2003 after this incident :tonguesmilie:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OlsnaLb89EQ
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The "if so and so had that car, he'd win" arguments lack logic. Vettel isn't just winning championships, he's dominating and breaking records. The best way to judge his ability would be to compare him to his partner, who's nowhere near his pace.
Webber & Vettel were very close in 2010 , he wasnt dominating at all last year & was lucky to even win the championship , this year webber has had bad luck specially with KERS & due to always starting poorly , my point is that vettel success is due to adrian newey , you would know why if you see how other drivers did who drove newey cars in the past.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OlsnaLb89EQ
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The "if so and so had that car, he'd win" arguments lack logic. Vettel isn't just winning championships, he's dominating and breaking records. The best way to judge his ability would be to compare him to his partner, who's nowhere near his pace.
Webber & Vettel were very close in 2010 , he wasnt dominating at all last year & was lucky to even win the championship , this year webber has had bad luck specially with KERS & due to always starting poorly , my point is that vettel success is due to adrian newey , you would know why if you see how other drivers did who drove newey cars in the past.
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