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ogtripleog
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omg i don't know why i wrote that.. i know what it is 😛 sorry, my bad
QUOTE(hotindia @ Dec 13 2006, 02:13 PM) [snapback]70836[/snapback]
i download game and movie[hindi not english] torrents from public sites and not private sites. am i in big risk?has MPAA and RIAA screwed any guy in india for downloading torrents i heard there are many pending cases and mpaa has punished 80 million people worldwide can anyone explain it.and another question do you guys download torrents from public or private sites?reply soon
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You are not alone I download old stuff from public trackers and new stuff from private trackers. Given the BB scenario here I doubt anyone would be interested in prosecuting you . I love downloading and will continue doing it.............stay away from public trackers the so called legal bigwigs are always keeping an eye on them. Maybe you could use some thing like peer guardian but its not full proof. Have you seen the the documentary on link-removed even the all so mighty americanos could not stop them. They were down for one day and up again the very next day more powerful. Anyways the moral of the story is anything illegal has got a risk attached to it and if you are one of those who is constantly going to worry stay away from it.
i download game and movie[hindi not english] torrents from public sites and not private sites. am i in big risk?has MPAA and RIAA screwed any guy in india for downloading torrents i heard there are many pending cases and mpaa has punished 80 million people worldwide can anyone explain it.and another question do you guys download torrents from public or private sites?reply soon
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You are not alone I download old stuff from public trackers and new stuff from private trackers. Given the BB scenario here I doubt anyone would be interested in prosecuting you . I love downloading and will continue doing it.............stay away from public trackers the so called legal bigwigs are always keeping an eye on them. Maybe you could use some thing like peer guardian but its not full proof. Have you seen the the documentary on link-removed even the all so mighty americanos could not stop them. They were down for one day and up again the very next day more powerful. Anyways the moral of the story is anything illegal has got a risk attached to it and if you are one of those who is constantly going to worry stay away from it.
QUOTE(hotindia @ Dec 14 2006, 01:56 PM) [snapback]70888[/snapback]
who are the legal bigwigs in india?can they take any action in india?
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Hard to say, my guess is when the perceived loss crosses some invisible line and spurs them into action. For that to happen there will have be at least an order of magnitude more home PC & broadband use. All the lawsuits started flying in the US & .eu when broadband use was well over 20%.
So since we are currently languishing at 3%, i "think" there is still time.
India has been a WTO member for nearly a decade now. I'm under the impression this little fact will certainly oblige India to police copyright, but to what extent remains to be seen. There are grievances on both sides of this agreement, issues that are a hell of a lot more important to the country than piracy.
who are the legal bigwigs in india?can they take any action in india?
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Hard to say, my guess is when the perceived loss crosses some invisible line and spurs them into action. For that to happen there will have be at least an order of magnitude more home PC & broadband use. All the lawsuits started flying in the US & .eu when broadband use was well over 20%.
So since we are currently languishing at 3%, i "think" there is still time.
India has been a WTO member for nearly a decade now. I'm under the impression this little fact will certainly oblige India to police copyright, but to what extent remains to be seen. There are grievances on both sides of this agreement, issues that are a hell of a lot more important to the country than piracy.
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World's First Jail Sentence for BitTorrent Piracy 😱
Hong Kong newspaper The Standard reports on what seems to be the world's first case of a BitTorrent movie pirate being sent to jail. (Others have been jailed for related crimes.) After losing his appeal against a November 2005 conviction, Chan Nai-ming, a 38-year-old BitTorrent user known as 'Big Crook,' has begun serving a prison sentence for making the films 'Daredevil,' 'Miss Congeniality,' and 'Red Planet' available for download via BitTorrent. His appeal was based on the fact that he did not profit from the piracy.
From the article: "[Appeals Judge] Beeson noted [convicting magistrate] MacIntosh, in handing out the sentence, was fully aware of the noncommercial nature of the case, but measured the seriousness of the case by the harm done to the moviemakers — not by the gain made by the offender. Chan, and those in the chatroom, 'were aware of the possible criminal implications of uploading films to the system,' Beeson wrote. She also noted the sentence was already drastically reduced, from a maximum of four years, to three months, in order 'to reflect the novelty of the conviction.'
Hong Kong newspaper The Standard reports on what seems to be the world's first case of a BitTorrent movie pirate being sent to jail. (Others have been jailed for related crimes.) After losing his appeal against a November 2005 conviction, Chan Nai-ming, a 38-year-old BitTorrent user known as 'Big Crook,' has begun serving a prison sentence for making the films 'Daredevil,' 'Miss Congeniality,' and 'Red Planet' available for download via BitTorrent. His appeal was based on the fact that he did not profit from the piracy.
From the article: "[Appeals Judge] Beeson noted [convicting magistrate] MacIntosh, in handing out the sentence, was fully aware of the noncommercial nature of the case, but measured the seriousness of the case by the harm done to the moviemakers — not by the gain made by the offender. Chan, and those in the chatroom, 'were aware of the possible criminal implications of uploading films to the system,' Beeson wrote. She also noted the sentence was already drastically reduced, from a maximum of four years, to three months, in order 'to reflect the novelty of the conviction.'
ISP's pay indian gov some amount from our heavy packages(ofcourse our democratic right).ISP's earn much ..look at the amount they spend on the infrastructure & services...They expect great growth..great growth depends on we people who want high speeds..we regret but we help them to reach their goals of reaching out to more customers(we do marketing by spreading the adv's of internet). If govn do crackdown on us..imagine the results of future broadband in India..i will go for Rs2oo/- package just to read info & mails(that will do for me minus torrents). Imagine we..sorry myself have learnt most of the digital world stuff using "those" avaialable stuff..u know y..caz in india some cannot afford it at one point & its a need to stay ahead of its time..if people start cracking indian people systems ..each one of us will be held on one crime or the other..be it music ..softwares.anything..so results is..down on info sharing & intellectual growth due to fear..other's who cannot afford will have to do other mere jobs all their life..If its available then things would have been different for him in this life time itself.thanks to "those" softwares. This sin is worth doing. Better to sin as a pauper & get punished as a millioner..So govnt needs to see that the larger chunk of our packages go to the ones who create the data(movies..music etc..)..Well its cost effective for the creaters also as no post manufacturing units & marketing & salesmen needed..All they have is to take some from our ISp's..Well this is wht i think..plz do suggest any flwas..if any & add ur suggestions
What about downloading from rapid$hare and other file hosting sites? Is it safe to download from there? I don't think so...If India becomes strict with the anti-piracy laws then there will be nothing much to do with the unlimited broadband and its high speeds. People can just check their mail, chat and browse sites, shutdown their PC and go to sleep and nothing more to do other than that 😛 . People in the US are earning a lot in dollars and they can pay 50$ or 100$ for the softwares or music they buy/download. How can a man who is earning 5000rs/month or even 10000rs/month afford to buy all this? 🙁 I am just conveying facts and I am not for/against piracy... B)
ogtripleog
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if their were to be a crackdown on the use of torrents to get illegal stuff, i would still feel safer downloading from link-removed (though not completely safe)so far most people have said that a crackdown on piracy would be a bad thing as it would render their unlimited connections useless... but has anyone thought about it like this - maybe it would encourage isp's to offer unlimited internet at higher speeds (1 mbps or more) feeling safe that the extra bandwidth will not be misused as it would be in the current case by users.. i can still think of plenty of legal things to do with u/l internet such as VOIP, gaming, streaming video.. hell, even operating system updates ensure that a one gb limit as offered by many isps today is not very useful.. i know i'm going to flamed for writing this 😛
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How can a man who is earning 5000rs/month or even 10000rs/month afford to buy all this? 🙁
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Since when did such a man ever need the internet to get his fix 🙂
if they ever crack down, the real pirates (ones that do this for a living) will be celbrating as they have been selling their wares long before the internet.
I've lived in NYC, on certain streets there are ppl selling this in the open, in Manhattan. They get busted eventually, but there always seems to be some one ready to stand in.
Funnily enough i'm told mumbai is actually much cleaner than other cities in this aspect. As in there is no such market anywhere in mumbai, Bollywood's turf and all.
(given human nature and the teeming masses there, i find this hard to believe).
QUOTE(ogtripleog @ Dec 20 2006, 07:06 PM) [snapback]71296[/snapback]
but has anyone thought about it like this - maybe it would encourage isp's to offer unlimited internet at higher speeds (1 mbps or more) feeling safe that the extra bandwidth will not be misused as it would be in the current case by users..
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Hehe, what you are saying is that if it were made illegal *ONLY THEN* would ISPs feel safe to offer unlimited bandwidth.
How can a man who is earning 5000rs/month or even 10000rs/month afford to buy all this? 🙁
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Since when did such a man ever need the internet to get his fix 🙂
if they ever crack down, the real pirates (ones that do this for a living) will be celbrating as they have been selling their wares long before the internet.
I've lived in NYC, on certain streets there are ppl selling this in the open, in Manhattan. They get busted eventually, but there always seems to be some one ready to stand in.
Funnily enough i'm told mumbai is actually much cleaner than other cities in this aspect. As in there is no such market anywhere in mumbai, Bollywood's turf and all.
(given human nature and the teeming masses there, i find this hard to believe).
QUOTE(ogtripleog @ Dec 20 2006, 07:06 PM) [snapback]71296[/snapback]
but has anyone thought about it like this - maybe it would encourage isp's to offer unlimited internet at higher speeds (1 mbps or more) feeling safe that the extra bandwidth will not be misused as it would be in the current case by users..
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Hehe, what you are saying is that if it were made illegal *ONLY THEN* would ISPs feel safe to offer unlimited bandwidth.