ogtripleog
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BitTorrent Legality Question
- Thread starter josh007
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QUOTE(Sushubh @ Nov 27 2006, 06:39 PM) [snapback]69708[/snapback]
this thread is going no where. people know what they are doing is illegal yet they are not ready to accept the fact that they might get caught for doing it. funny. and insane. at the same time.
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this thread might have gone to a very intelligent and good discussion had u answered what i asked to u..but u chose to be a smart a** and started commenting about how people are??..this is ur second time u did that...come down from ur pedestal of mod and help reach the thread to meaningfull existense.i m askin u to do this since of all the posts in this thread, i find ur 2 outta 3 posts the most useless here...irony being u bein a mod and doin this.... 😱
what i wanted to ask and know as to what are the charges that can be put against someone. Coz belive me, this is the way Law works. a person who is distributing something say drugs is not equal to someone who is buying from him...
this thread is going no where. people know what they are doing is illegal yet they are not ready to accept the fact that they might get caught for doing it. funny. and insane. at the same time.
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this thread might have gone to a very intelligent and good discussion had u answered what i asked to u..but u chose to be a smart a** and started commenting about how people are??..this is ur second time u did that...come down from ur pedestal of mod and help reach the thread to meaningfull existense.i m askin u to do this since of all the posts in this thread, i find ur 2 outta 3 posts the most useless here...irony being u bein a mod and doin this.... 😱
what i wanted to ask and know as to what are the charges that can be put against someone. Coz belive me, this is the way Law works. a person who is distributing something say drugs is not equal to someone who is buying from him...
having digital content on your hard disk you have not paid for is going to be illegal. if you own something but you make it available on the net would be illegal. downloading the same would be illegal. just because you do not become a party to make something available online does not mean you cannot be sued for piracy.
ogtripleog
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@josh show some respect.. pedestal of mod lmao anyway their is no denying the fact that downloading copyrighted content from torrents is illegal as hell.. if u get caught, u are on very shaky legal ground.. however, considering the prevalent scenario in our country is not very likely 🙄
ogtripleog
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most of the people in india don't use the internet.. im sure that if u count only the ones that use the internet for downloading, most of them will be aware if not only users of bittorrent
QUOTE(ogtripleog @ Nov 27 2006, 01:49 PM) [snapback]69685[/snapback]
Actually, their are plenty of cyber laws, just not the will to enforce them.. and considering the number of cases pending in india, i don't think that is a bad thing 😛 catch the murderers and the rapists and let us download in peace.. 😛 and btw having a dynamic ip while downloading torrents does pretty much ensure that you can't be caught.. stop spreading FUD.. tracking down a dynamic ip for downloading torrents and that too in india? i would say a pretty long shot 😉
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DYNAMIC IPs can be tracked...
Suppose you are downloading a file from a server at a specific time. The trackers will just have to see which ip has downloaded that particular file and at what time. This information is available at every servers. They can keep log of every clicks that we do on a webpage. In the case of torrents its a little different. They can't track your ip when you are offline. But they can surely track you when you are downloading/seeding a torrent. They just need to look up the ip address and the time. You can get the list of ip addresses which are downloading/ seeding when you are into a torrent (from the peers/seeders list).
With this info they can enquire with the ISPs, which user was using this particular ip at that particular time. ISPs have the ability to do that and they can easily track out a particular user. ISPs have details of logins from different users at different times in their logging system. So tracking dynamic ip is not very complex...
This can only be done through legal measures and no lawsuits have been assigned to do this in India till now.
If anybody has any other view regarding this then feel free to criticize.
I am not saying I am against illegal downloading and I am not with the anti-piracy team. I just want to give facts! B)
Actually, their are plenty of cyber laws, just not the will to enforce them.. and considering the number of cases pending in india, i don't think that is a bad thing 😛 catch the murderers and the rapists and let us download in peace.. 😛 and btw having a dynamic ip while downloading torrents does pretty much ensure that you can't be caught.. stop spreading FUD.. tracking down a dynamic ip for downloading torrents and that too in india? i would say a pretty long shot 😉
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DYNAMIC IPs can be tracked...
Suppose you are downloading a file from a server at a specific time. The trackers will just have to see which ip has downloaded that particular file and at what time. This information is available at every servers. They can keep log of every clicks that we do on a webpage. In the case of torrents its a little different. They can't track your ip when you are offline. But they can surely track you when you are downloading/seeding a torrent. They just need to look up the ip address and the time. You can get the list of ip addresses which are downloading/ seeding when you are into a torrent (from the peers/seeders list).
With this info they can enquire with the ISPs, which user was using this particular ip at that particular time. ISPs have the ability to do that and they can easily track out a particular user. ISPs have details of logins from different users at different times in their logging system. So tracking dynamic ip is not very complex...
This can only be done through legal measures and no lawsuits have been assigned to do this in India till now.
If anybody has any other view regarding this then feel free to criticize.
I am not saying I am against illegal downloading and I am not with the anti-piracy team. I just want to give facts! B)
yaaron.....long time i was offline...Can anyone explain how to hide the IP while using torrents. Peer guardian is oK but the prob is that its custom made for US users. NOt indian..so u see..theres a gap....thats why can anyone just give an info as to how an IP can be hidden while downloading....
QUOTE(blr_p @ Nov 23 2006, 03:24 PM) [snapback]69479[/snapback]
Are you asking for a safeh way to download torrents ?..then you need to operate in a manner where your IP adddr is not publicly viewable as with most P2P & torrent apps. How you accomplish this is best left as an exercise to the reader 😉
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hey dude.........just above u have said the IP address can be hidden while using torrents...and in last post u said its not possible to hide it....plz explain what is true???...coz i need it..u c u will b really helping a lot of junta outta here.....just see the no of views this topic has got..clearly shows the concern of the junta... 😉
Are you asking for a safeh way to download torrents ?..then you need to operate in a manner where your IP adddr is not publicly viewable as with most P2P & torrent apps. How you accomplish this is best left as an exercise to the reader 😉
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hey dude.........just above u have said the IP address can be hidden while using torrents...and in last post u said its not possible to hide it....plz explain what is true???...coz i need it..u c u will b really helping a lot of junta outta here.....just see the no of views this topic has got..clearly shows the concern of the junta... 😉
QUOTE(josh007 @ Dec 11 2006, 10:07 PM) [snapback]70682[/snapback]
hey dude.........just above u have said the IP address can be hidden while using torrents...and in last post u said its not possible to hide it....plz explain what is true???
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Re-read what i said. Hiding IPs is not possible if you use p2p and torrents. This is hardly a revelation.
and i suggested a good way to avoid this problem is to not use computer at all. therefore no IP to show 😛
hey dude.........just above u have said the IP address can be hidden while using torrents...and in last post u said its not possible to hide it....plz explain what is true???
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Re-read what i said. Hiding IPs is not possible if you use p2p and torrents. This is hardly a revelation.
and i suggested a good way to avoid this problem is to not use computer at all. therefore no IP to show 😛
QUOTE(blr_p @ Dec 11 2006, 11:39 PM) [snapback]70687[/snapback]
Re-read what i said. Hiding IPs is not possible if you use p2p and torrents. This is hardly a revelation.
and i suggested a good way to avoid this problem is to not use computer at all. therefore no IP to show 😛
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ohhh yeah..my apologies..i took a different meanin of it... anyway...ur suggestion was good..but jokes apart.....ur 1 of the posts say"how 1 can accomplish tis is left as an exercise to the person"...so here were u hinting to a real possible solution or the solution above i.e. to stop using a computer?..
do ans , man....u might b thinkin i m getting desperate or paranoid or something..but i really need this... 🙁
Re-read what i said. Hiding IPs is not possible if you use p2p and torrents. This is hardly a revelation.
and i suggested a good way to avoid this problem is to not use computer at all. therefore no IP to show 😛
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ohhh yeah..my apologies..i took a different meanin of it... anyway...ur suggestion was good..but jokes apart.....ur 1 of the posts say"how 1 can accomplish tis is left as an exercise to the person"...so here were u hinting to a real possible solution or the solution above i.e. to stop using a computer?..
do ans , man....u might b thinkin i m getting desperate or paranoid or something..but i really need this... 🙁
ogtripleog
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@gb_baran i didnt say that a dynamic ip cannot be traced - it just isnt very likely considering the time and the effort required to do so.. also, it is very much possible to hide your ip address while using torrents.. anyone hear about "The onion router" i.e. tor? i use it to spoof skype into thinking my ip address is from the usa in order to make free calls 😛 however, it isn't very good ethics to use it for huge downloads...