Fibernet Updated Proposal

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1. First time? Hrm. I doubt it, but before you get all the way up on your high horse, maybe we should get a collection of your posts with my responses, give out links to the literature, let people study them and leave that up to an audience vote. Failing that, would you be prepared to put that to the test against the collective knowledge of a few of my friends from countless ISPs across EVERY continent except Antarctica, not to mention equipment vendors? Do I really need an entire army of professionals who are actually employed to build & manage networks to tell the IIT graduate who is "right" and who is "wrong"? What about those on the business side of these things? Come on, do you really think I'm bullsh*g my way through the technical, legal and business aspects of the ISP business? Seems like a very dangerous position for me to be in, if that were the case. Officially, I make it my business to know everything there is to know about the ISP industry not just in India but in many countries that matter, and in some cases in the native languages of those countries. Unofficially, I make it my business to know more than anyone I talk to about what I'm doing. If you seriously think you know more than I do, then by all means, teach me, and if I'm really wrong about anything I've said here, either show your cards or stop being such an arrogant sod. I don't give a toss that you went to IIT or even what position you were in your class, but it seems very clear to me that my position on IIT grads for the last ~3 years is justified.2. Even if you think you have the best technology, that doesn't mean you'll be able to do what you're saying. The decision will be made by the bean-counters and the lawyers, not the technical people. My company has the advantage where I *am* part bean-counter, part technical person, part legal person. Peering etc is taken very seriously and ISPs will not just peer with anyone. Firstly, there's the legal stuff which you've not covered. Secondly, there's the terminology: if you're merely getting bandwidth from one of the other players, that's not peering, and you're not peered with them, as such, no access. Thirdly, you can't peer without a license, let alone start your own IX as you've been planning to. Fourthly, unless you can provide some significant advantage to the ISP, they're not going to connect to you. Period. As far as hosting a bunch of content, an ISP can implement content delivery servers for a one-time cost of less than 1 lakh per server, in their own premises, under their control. Why would they bother with you?If you still don't believe me, I can fire off a quick email to some of the decision makers at a few Indian ISPs who can give me some kind of official response as to how Fibernet would fit in to their networks, if at all and let them tell you what you can and can not do. 3. PLEASE USE THE QUOTE FEATURE PROPERLY.4. If you're going to answer questions 1 & 2, please do so politely and directly (request the cessation of insults and evasion of questions)... because I must say, you're wearing me rather thin.
 
Hey mg, chill man, he didn't mean it like that... and mr fibernet (pankaj yadav), you have to think before you post, man.
 
hey cut the SHIT lets get down to business, FIBERNET, you are subjected to customers as well, what is the exact plan, what are the licenses to be gaines, how are you going to work it out.... Just gut it out...
 
@mgcarley

Seriously, this is the problem.For me , you are no good than a troll who claims to do big things and has failed everytime. You have no credits, no basis of your talks.

I'm not trolling, I'm asking you serious questions. Please answer them. As for my failures, yes, I've failed in times gone by, however this venture of mine has not failed, and even if it does, it doesn't make my knowledge of the technology, the law or business void.

This is the sole reason why I am least interested in proving myself to you.My achievements are well known and well documented on Google and in real world.From day 1 you are trying to compare yourself with me and this is what I am least interested in.

No they're not. You have a few contribs to VLC. Congratulations. Where are the rest?

You have no credits, no basis of your talks.Since 1. This thread is about Fibernet 2. I don't want to compare myself with you.
I think we should not discuss anything at all.Get an ISP license. Try to start your service.Even if you succeed to become a cablewala, I will contact you with every minute detail about technology and legalities of Fibernet.

1. I'm aware this thread is about Fibernet. That's why I'm asking questions related to Fibernet.
2. Why do you think my people are in Delhi every week? Everything else is irrelevent because even though I'm involved in a company which is going to be an ISP and I have a job title that reflects it, you still need to answer the questions for your potential customers and any ISP that may wish to partner with you and if you're going to sit there and claim "no secrets", then why are you all of a sudden back to secrets mode and not answering any of mine? How different is a question from me than one from any other member of this forum?

Until then It will be better to avoid any talk between two of us.I am going to ignore every post of you from now on.

If you can't even answer any of my questions irrespective of what my job title is, how do you expect to get through to anyone else? Sorry, but if I'm honest, that seems like the cowards way out.
 


I am answering every question to everyone who is asking seriously.You are not.Please mind your business.

I *am* asking seriously, and you're not giving me answers. Why would I waste my time asking questions if I wasn't being serious?

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^ but i am seeing to much stress on ISP licensing...are yaar whether it is IP1/ISP whatever it is available for peanuts price. HAve u not seen the thread https://broadband.forum/broadband-in-india/73132-16-isps-have-0-customers/ ...
see the numbers....its a mela if all owners come together.:glee:

Licensing aside, there are still a lot of unanswered questions that I'm now being refused answers to. Why is that?

Also, these 16 ISPs may be fronts for money-laundering operations. Or not started services yet.
 
the **** this is confusing,.... which thread is one giving out what is fibernet doing and what is their plan...... SHIT collate it and put it in one go....... and what talk abouyt the ideas...... WE love here to talk about the ideas... as many of you know ....
 
You know, I need to present a powerpoint presentation to my classmates tomorrow. I turned to the Internet for some help and in one of the 'ask yourself' questions was the question
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Why would your audience want to do what you want them to do?
This is the most important question to ask — and the hardest to answer.


Avoid the temptation to say, "They should care." Figure out why they do care. How will your presentation improve their lives? Will it help them get ahead at work? build better relationships? make more money? make better use of the money they have? be happier?


Until you know why your audience will care about what you have to say, you don't have a speech."

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PS. courtesy : Christopher Witt
 
Even if I agree to what you have to say, say bsnl provides 2 mbps over ftth for 4000 rupees a month, then why would people want to pay you even an additional Rs 100 for fibernet, if in the end they're going to get the same 2mbps unlimited, and that too as merely dc++ which they can anyway do over the Internet?
 
Please remind me if i forget to answer any question except mg's

How are my questions any less valid than anybody else's? What if cst1992 posted the exact same question I did? Would you still ignore it?
 
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