How to save and invest hardcore earned money ??

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My problem is that I am unable to keep the money in Saving accounts. Looks like money don't want to stay with me. All get exhausted.Some amount in fixed deposit and some in Insurance policies bcoz they help in tax rebate too. Property is always the best place to invest but as said by blr_p, no doubt its a big boyz game who have lots of money.
 
Recently I did the followingOpened a RD (recurring deposit) with any bank for 10 years. I am paying a monthly EMI of 4700. I will be paying approx 5 lacs in 10 years. Guaranteed return is approx 9 lacs INR. I dont think there is a better investment than Recurring Deposit.Else buy Gold coins of 5gms, 10 gms each every quarter.I will never invest in unit linked investments, shares, insurance policies or stuff 🙁Thanks
 
My problem is that I am unable to keep the money in Saving accounts. Looks like money don't want to stay with me. All get exhausted.
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Some amount in fixed deposit and some in Insurance policies bcoz they help in tax rebate too. Property is always the best place to invest but as said by blr_p, no doubt its a big boyz game who have lots of money.
Earlier you said you made a good annual figure, so what is the problem.
 
This one looks good. Hope We all get lot of similar sugesstions here.

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Earlier you said you made a good annual figure, so what is the problem.

But for Mumbai, it not enough buddy 🙁 And even after combining my wife's income too, unable to make a good saving. Even if some saving is made for 1-2 months, I spend them in 3rd months.
 
Mutual funds, gold bonds, real estate , keeps my portfolio smiling though am not really a invest, wait and save kinda guy i believe in invest and grow , so mostly my savings [ if any 😕] go back in work.
Thing with MF's is you could end up negative in a bad market isn't it. What is your aggregate rate of return ?

gold is solid investment and will continue to be so even after all everything fails, cause gold or other minerals based investments are backed by a solid security in end. a bubble is created on artificial or paper money as we call it, when there is no real money or security expect paper securities exchanging varoius hands , it's long and complicated affair , the crash of 08 was the result of a bubble of artificial money where there was none to go around. gold/sliver will forever be there, though prices may go up and down but it will never crash.

next big crash in 2012 will be in real estate 😛
Well this is the thing, if there is a crash coming then don't buy. There is also expectation of another recession in the US so stocks could go even lower that why ppl are edgy right now. About gold. Fareed did a good segment on it, lets see what your take is, completely contradicts you ....

ZAKARIA: Now many people have been investing in gold, but Hugo Chavez wants to hoard it, physically, literally. The Venezuelan government controls the world's 15th largest stockpile of gold, about 365 tons. But like most gold investors, it doesn't really have that gold, at least not physically.

More than half of Venezuela's reserves are held overseas in London, Zurich, and New York. If you ever visit the New York Federal Reserve, you can even see it in the underground vaults, neatly labelled as Venezuela's.

Mr. Chavez you know doesn't like the west, he doesn't like his predicament. So, he's now announced he wants his gold. But how do you transport 211 tons of gold across the seas?

Well, by spending lots of money. You have to ensure against the gold heist like the one in "The Italian Job." **Experts say Mr. Chavez could spend at least 4 percent on insurance alone, with more on security and transport. Add it all up, and you could get about a half billion dollars spent. That's serious money for any country, let alone one that has negative growth rates as Venezuela does these days.

What in the world is Hugo Chavez thinking? Actually, he's not alone. From the ancient times of Egypt's study common to the gold rush in the mid 19th century right through the modern day, we've always been attracted to gold. Who can ever forget the appropriately named Auric Goldfinger from the James Bond movie?

ZAKARIA: There are many who share Mr. Goldfinger's sentiments around the globe, especially in times of confusion and uncertainty about governments. People worry that governments are keeping interest rates too low, that will cause inflation and could weaken the dollar and other currencies. So the answer -- store gold. Something that has always been seen as a solid, substantial hedge against inflation. If everything else collapses, the theory goes, gold will hold its value. For this reason, in the last decade, gold prices have risen more than 600 percent. Is this a rational response to legitimate fears of inflation? Or are we in the middle of a bubble? There are certainly signs that suggest a bubble. The fact is global demand for gold in industry and jewelry has actually declined by 18 percent since 2004.

And yet over the same period, prices have surged. So, it's clear that the market is flooded with speculators who see gold as an investment, not as a usable currency or product. What's really changed in the last few years is access. It's easier to buy gold over the internet than it is stocks or shares these days. In places like Abu Dhabi and some European cities, you can buy grams of gold at ATM- style dispensers. All over the world, there's a new gold rush. You switch on the TV, and commercials warn you that you need to put your money in gold.

ZAKARIA: And Donald Trump is now accepting gold bars instead of wire transfers for his luxury condos. This is bizarre. A lot of it is simply scare mongering. The truth is that for two-and-a-half decades, between 1980 and the mid 2000s, gold prices actually declined unlike many other commodities which have actual end uses, oil and minerals, gold is just a symbol. As such, its price rises have more to do with psychology and emotion rather than reason. So, when it falls out of fashion, the price could really collapse. So, the next time you watch Goldfinger --

ZAKARIA: Or hear of the antics of a Hugo Chavez or a Donald Trump, be a little wary. Gold isn't the stock with real earnings. It isn't a bond with interest payments. It isn't oil. It won't help you drive a car, it won't help you light a fire. Yes, you can wear it, but you can't eat it. If doomsday really arrives, a can of baked beans might be worth a lot more than a brick of gold. We'll be right back.

Of course in India we are culturally programmed to go after gold so i expect the above may not make much of a difference.

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But for Mumbai, it not enough buddy 🙁 And even after combining my wife's income too, unable to make a good saving. Even if some saving is made for 1-2 months, I spend them in 3rd months.
Ohh, i forgot you live in the worlds most expensive city for real estate.

Hmm, somebody told me a few years ago they could get an appt around 30-lakh and be half an hour out of the city. I thought that was a very low figure.

But otherwise mumbai is a city i would never want to live in, where is the dignity in renting all your life ?

This 'come to bombay, come to bombay, bombay meri hai' song makes you forget about it maybe 😀
 
I can be true for India also bcoz no doubt that demand of gold had decreased but prices is increasingly heavily which gonna touch 30 by Diwali. And the ways gold loan and other gold related investment are advertised, can't deny the above situation.

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Ohh, i forgot you live in the worlds most expensive city for real estate.

Hmm, somebody told me a few years ago they could get an appt around 30-lakh and be half an hour out of the city. I thought that was a very low figure.

But otherwise mumbai is a city i would never want to live in, where is the dignity in renting all your life ?

This 'come to bombay, come to bombay, bombay meri hai' song makes you forget about it maybe 😀

And now people who are coming for jobs in Mumbai are not even planning to buy property. Recently read an article in newspaper that people are preferring to get a rented apartment rather than owning it.

And in recent activities, we all have seen how builder cheats upon when the building is restructured . And actually it makes no sense earning a lot and spending it all .

But those who have purchsed or dealt in property 4-5 years back here are in huge profit.
 


Gold is a pretty safe best if you are in for the long term. Don't believe the asset bubble non sense. Since 2000, prices have been steadily rising. It may correct a bit in the short run but will ultimately appreciate a lot. If you are risk averse, invest in gold ETF options which would limit your downside to the option premium.
 
Bt in last one yr only gold price have doubled. it was 15k in May 2010 and it 28k now. Can you pls explain this gold ETF options with benefits.
 
Stocks are good to - I would say a must - have of any portfolio, particularly when one is young and has lot of work years ahead. That is the only way money can appreciate fast. However, it does require a lot of discipline. Mutual funds therefore are the best bet. Newbies can start off with some good balanced diversified funds, and once they grow on confidence, can move to equity diverisified funds. Sectoral funds are best avoided. @ today's rate, FD is another MUST have. 10% rates aren't going to be available for long, so book them while they are still around. Also invest smart. Like invest in the name of parents, or direct siblings without any income or with low income. That way you also save on tax if you are already being taxed on your income. Invest in funds / shares for more than a year, you wouldn't have to pay tax on that - atleast not as long as the DTC comes in

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Can you pls explain this gold ETF options with benefits.

Gold ETF is nothing but a simplistic approach to investing in gold. You no longer need to buy physical representations of gold, but instead, can trade with it, just like you would do a mutual fund or a stock. It is all paperless. These funds (ETFs) are such that almost the entire corpus (to the tune of 99% in most), goes into gold at bullion rates, and the rest 1% might be put into select rated financial instruments. Due to this pattern, it doesn't matter which fund house's ETF you end up taking - they will give you the same returns over any duration.
 
Now I have one more silly query . :abnormal: How can one save tax by investing of the name of non earning parents and siblings ??
 
And in recent activities, we all have seen how builder cheats upon when the building is restructured . And actually it makes no sense earning a lot and spending it all .

But those who have purchsed or dealt in property 4-5 years back here are in huge profit.
There's a lot of cheating everywhere with builders, you need to know what you are getting into. Even then its tricky they build fast and do bad work.But in mumbai i hear stuff gets sold before its even built thats the crazy level of speculation there is in it. All because of one very basic fact.

The people increase but land stands fixed.

If you're starting off, even after you started it can be very difficult to afford a place to live. There were protests in Israel about this recently, ppl were pissed off that even after 20 yrs of work they would never be able to afford a home. In China to get married you have to own a house, so the whole family ends up pooling thier savings so the guy can get married.
 
Can you pls explain this gold ETF options with benefits.

An option is simply a privilege which gives you the option of buying/selling a derivative at a future date.

An ETF is a derivative which tracks the value of a particular commodity which is gold in your case. So the price of the gold ETF is determined by the price of gold.

Since you expect the price of gold to rise in the future, you can purchase a long(buy) option with a duration of say one year. Say the price of a gold ETF is now 30000 and you purchase long options worth 3,00,000 and pay 10,000 as option premium. Now, after one year when the option expires, say the price of a gold ETF is 40000, you can exercise your buy option and get 10 lots for 3,00,000 and sell them for 4,00,000(40,000*10) and earn 90,000 (4,00,000-3,00,000-10,000). If the price of a gold ETF say falls to 20000 you can choose NOT to exercise your option and lose 10,000. Your downside is thus limited.

There is a lot of information about options,futures,derivatives etc. available on the internet if you want to learn more.
 
This one looks good. Hope We all get lot of similar sugesstions here.

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But for Mumbai, it not enough buddy 🙁 And even after combining my wife's income too, unable to make a good saving. Even if some saving is made for 1-2 months, I spend them in 3rd months.

If possible, relocate to economy cities - Hyderabad/ Bangalore?
 
Now I have one more silly query . :abnormal: How can one save tax by investing of the name of non earning parents and siblings ??

You can do this by 'gift'ing them money. It doesn't need legal work, but no harm in having a document with a revenue stamp on it stating you gifted, let's say, your dad 10,000 bucks. Whatever profit he makes using those 10,000 bucks will be charged to him. Assuming he has no taxable income, that effectively means no tax is being paid on profits. Note that YOU will not get any tax benefits due to this directly, but since the money stays at home and also grows without leaving the home, you can say you are maximising your profits in a way
 
bhai ji nothing can give return (huge and in short time) like real estate.I had booked a flat at pre launching time of a project (at prelaunching the rates are very low with lots of free bies), and sold it after one yr and made 5L with just an investment of 6L.T&C1. you should book flat at pre launching time for max gain.2. confirm with builder about resale during the construction (usually 1-2 yr).
 

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