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And thats exactly what I'm saying - its a distro BY simpletons FOR simpletons.Try using it JUST A BIT outside of expected parameters, and it flips out.Its not able to show me a GUI. The other distros are able to.What more can I say.

so ur computer suck. why blame ubuntu for that? they cannot for god sake support every hardware out there in a single freaking CD. do you think vista would come in 1 CD? i do not. how many distros come in a single cd pack as of now?

That too on a FREE cd, shipped to India. Got 5 CDs this Monday.

i got 15 cds10 for 32 bit5 for 64 biti installed 64 bit... but guys pls help me..... where is the root terminal login gone in that ? actually i wanted to start the crap sify. and it says i need to be root. and when i type su and password it says sorry. in installation i had put a user name and a password . no other password or username. hence that is my root passwordbut it cannot digest. in earlier ubuntu versions it has a separate root terminal in the menu. now its just terminal. this ver is 5.10 64 bit.

Just a guess..... not sure if it will work

try

That should give you a shell with root access.

🙁 did not work

guess what i tried sudo su and it worked!!

Originally posted by prathapml@Dec 8 2005, 04:27 AM
And thats exactly what I'm saying - its a distro BY simpletons FOR simpletons.
Try using it JUST A BIT outside of expected parameters, and it flips out.

Its not able to show me a GUI. The other distros are able to.
What more can I say.
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Well, what do you mean exactly by not able to display a gui? Ihave had problems galore with FC3 and FC2 on that score...

BTW sudo alone would have done... the secret is you enter ur own (non root) password...
actually that is the only weird part of ubuntu.. depending on how you set it up you may have a root user, a sudoed user.. whatever.
And yes, I do have a problem with the lack of samba.. Iknow they use that other smbclient, but it just doesn't do it for me... is only useful via the GUI.. I had to dld the package

i am getting the following error:root@ubuntu:/home/abc/Desktop# java -jar BroadbandUI.jargnu.xml.dom.ls.DomLSException: empty document, with no root element. at ._ZN4java4lang11VMThrowable16fillInStackTraceEPNS0_9ThrowableE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN4java4lang9Throwable16fillInStackTraceEv (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN4java4lang9ThrowableC1EPNS0_6StringE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN4java4lang9ExceptionC1EPNS0_6StringE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN4java4lang16RuntimeExceptionC1EPNS0_6StringE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3org3w3c3dom2ls11LSExceptionC1EsPN4java4lang6StringE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu3xml3dom2ls14DomLSExceptionC1EsPN4java4lang9ExceptionE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu3xml3dom2ls11DomLSParser7doParseEPN3org3w3c3dom2ls7LSInputE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu3xml3dom2ls11DomLSParser5parseEPN3org3w3c3dom2ls7LSInputE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu3xml3dom18DomDocumentBuilder5parseEPN3org3xml3sax11InputSourceE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at BroadbandUI.XmlParser.XmlParser(java.lang.String) (Unknown Source) at ._ZN16_Jv_InterpMethod10run_normalEP7ffi_cifPvP7ffi_rawS2_ (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at BroadbandUI.LaunchDialer.main(java.lang.String[]) (Unknown Source) at ._ZN16_Jv_InterpMethod9run_classEP7ffi_cifPvP7ffi_rawS2_ (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu4java4lang10MainThread9call_mainEv (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu4java4lang10MainThread3runEv (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._Z13_Jv_ThreadRunPN4java4lang6ThreadE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._Z11_Jv_RunMainP14_Jv_VMInitArgsPN4java4lang5ClassEPKciPS6_b (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at .main (/usr/lib/libgij.so.6.0.0) at .__libc_start_main (/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc-2.3.5.so)Caused by: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException@4c050 at ._ZN4java4lang11VMThrowable16fillInStackTraceEPNS0_9ThrowableE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN4java4lang9Throwable16fillInStackTraceEv (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN4java4lang9ThrowableC1EPNS0_6StringE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN4java4lang9ExceptionC1EPNS0_6StringE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3org3xml3sax12SAXExceptionC1EPN4java4lang6StringE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3org3xml3sax17SAXParseExceptionC1EPN4java4lang6StringEPNS1_7LocatorE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu3xml8aelfred29SAXDriver5fatalEPN4java4lang6StringE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu3xml8aelfred29XmlParser5errorEPN4java4lang6StringE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu3xml8aelfred29XmlParser7doParseEPN4java4lang6StringES6_PNS3_2io6ReaderEPNS7_11InputStreamES6_ (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu3xml8aelfred29SAXDriver5parseEPN3org3xml3sax11InputSourceE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ._ZN3gnu3xml8aelfred29XmlReader5parseEPN3org3xml3sax11InputSourceE (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) ...13 more

Some files missing there? Corrupt? I haven't run java apps on Linux ever, so I can't be sure as to what that means.

Kingkrool, please read what I've said about it first, before commenting.
Anyways, fedora is a distro not even worth discussing, but fact is they have the needed packages right on disc - no need to run to the internet - you have all necessary tools to fix things offline (if you still get problems even after that, it speaks volumes on the expertise of the user, not a problem with the distro). Whereas with ubuntu, if I did not have the net, i would be totally stuck without any of these 3 avaialble - driver/compiler/kernel-sources.

Originally posted by Sushubh@Dec 8 2005, 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by prathapml@Dec 6 2005, 02:49 AM
Yet another reason why ubuntu ends up frustrating the user:

On my 64-bit machine (I tried both x64 & x86 CDs), the setup ran fine (text-mode).
Then at first-boot, it fails to load X (the GUI).
Similarly, the LiveCD too falls back to init 3.
Reason is that it does not contain the drivers for my graphics card.
Now, it was supposed to have asked me which X server i wanted (X vesa fb, in this case) during setup, but it did not. Nor did it ask what packages i want to install (the the package mc - midnight commander - is one app conspicuous by its absence).

Ok fine, I thought. Downloaded the latest nVidia graphics drivers for linux. Understandably, it did not have a pre-compiled module for the kernel used in ubuntu 5.10
But the stunner was that when the driver then attempted to build the kernel module, it turned out ubuntu installed no compilers (& associated packages & kernel sources).

So i downloaded the required things & got it all working. But the point is, other distros come with all these things bundled already, or atleast they have the basic choices during setup. Whereas Ubuntu is made and runs, on precisely a particular set of machines, & not on others. With most linux distros, you can be reasonably hopeful that most things will be working fine, or if they dont, they deliver the power to set it right.

as for Ubuntu?
Made by novices and for novices. With a lot of essentials missing.
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Okay, let me summarise what I mean to say:
That the correct driver was missing in ubuntu is NOT the big-deal, because thats an expected scenario. The real mess here was, it did not even have some basic packages (packages which could have helped me to build the driver myself & have the system up/running in minutes!)

sifyfan, please install java 1.5 and try again. BTW is that Java client updated for version 3 of their protocol? If so, please upload it somewhere and post the link here.

sify is so sick. they have changed the protocols and all for windows client. they have done nothing to the java based client. hence it does not work and they are not concern to update it. as it is i think people of this forum are only aware of this.. Sify guys if you are reading this forum please update your linux and mac bb clients....

what if you are a MAC or a Linux user?