Switched to Airtel 100 Mbps last week, had Excitel 300. From 1st May till 8th (stopped using beyond and my sub ended 13th) exactly at 7 PM - 1 AM in evening download used to fluctuate b/w 2 Mbps - 6 Mbps. Phone support is down, chat support is useless and LCO was passing bucks to Excitel - I was frustrated. I'm from 110053.
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I myself is waiting for Airtel FTTH to be available in my location. But sadly they have no mood to give fiber at the movement.
Excitel is becoming worse day by day.
Excitel is becoming worse day by day.
Excitel is LCO based and LCOs due to current demand and supply factors in market are abusing their market power by making insufficient investment in infra(mostly in fiber cable) and over-subscription.
Earlier LCO atleast used two core fiber cable(two obtical fiber strands) , nowadays some are just winging it with one cable. (JIO in comparison uses humongous 98 core purple cable)
Lastly Excitel is not good if you are using international bandwidth or anything not on peered networks or any plan beyond 100 Mbps
Earlier LCO atleast used two core fiber cable(two obtical fiber strands) , nowadays some are just winging it with one cable. (JIO in comparison uses humongous 98 core purple cable)
Lastly Excitel is not good if you are using international bandwidth or anything not on peered networks or any plan beyond 100 Mbps
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I dont think single fiber would be that much a problem as single mode fiber has huge bandwidth capability. I might be wrong though.
If using single fiber core , lco must be using splitter to give connection which would reduce the power level for ont too.
I suspect low grade low bandwidth olt might be the issue if speeds are reduced because of oversubscription.
If using single fiber core , lco must be using splitter to give connection which would reduce the power level for ont too.
I suspect low grade low bandwidth olt might be the issue if speeds are reduced because of oversubscription.
Hey AAk, you don't start to feel degradation until over-subscription finally kicks in .
For their customer distribution for most normal users 1 Gbps can go a long way .
It can easily power a lot of common/normal users(for 70% of them atleast) thanks to the compression/lazy loading techniques used by most of the popular apps .
Where things start to get ugly is LCOs when they catch 'Splice n' Splitter' mania, a chronic health condition which triggers when cable guy sees that he still has power budget to do 1:8 , 1:32 stuff. (and they have tasted the blood of running ONT near the edge of -29.xx dBm)
Low grade OLT? Yes a part factor , they prefer buying 35K-55K EPON olt rather than going for GPONS which can be 1,00,000 upwards.
Right now, getting started with a cheap OLT is far better proposition than going slow and doing it well to capture the market fast.(My area has polls are spammed by new lco poster every 2 week)
Most of LCO ONTs get 1 Gbps upstream by default and it is updated to 2Gbps then 4Gbps(rare) ---> never heard of 10Gbps.
2Gbps is more common upstream upgrade.
For their customer distribution for most normal users 1 Gbps can go a long way .
It can easily power a lot of common/normal users(for 70% of them atleast) thanks to the compression/lazy loading techniques used by most of the popular apps .
Where things start to get ugly is LCOs when they catch 'Splice n' Splitter' mania, a chronic health condition which triggers when cable guy sees that he still has power budget to do 1:8 , 1:32 stuff. (and they have tasted the blood of running ONT near the edge of -29.xx dBm)
Low grade OLT? Yes a part factor , they prefer buying 35K-55K EPON olt rather than going for GPONS which can be 1,00,000 upwards.
Right now, getting started with a cheap OLT is far better proposition than going slow and doing it well to capture the market fast.(My area has polls are spammed by new lco poster every 2 week)
Most of LCO ONTs get 1 Gbps upstream by default and it is updated to 2Gbps then 4Gbps(rare) ---> never heard of 10Gbps.
2Gbps is more common upstream upgrade.
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As far as i know olt is provided by Excitel itself on security for Excitel Fiber, GPON or EPON i don't know and Excitel is the one who manages it. Though few lcos have gpon now, can't say whether Excitel have shifted to gpon permanently. Dont you think, Excitel should be blamed for low grade olts or oversubscription as they are managing olts
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All i know, Excitel even on non peer sites is not going beyond 200 mbps. Gladly I am using one month subscription now. And will shift to 200 mbps from next month, public torrents are even worse now (since lockdown started)
I even tried DNS 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 none of them change much difference.
On peering sites I am always getting full 300 Mbps even when last month my Fiber cable got a small cut and resulting in power to -32dBm whereas my entire internet was not giving more than 1 mbps and at same time google drive as giving me full 300 mbps. Like @Realme said, Excitel is good unless your main purpose is streaming sites.
I even tried DNS 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 none of them change much difference.
On peering sites I am always getting full 300 Mbps even when last month my Fiber cable got a small cut and resulting in power to -32dBm whereas my entire internet was not giving more than 1 mbps and at same time google drive as giving me full 300 mbps. Like @Realme said, Excitel is good unless your main purpose is streaming sites.
I've been relatively lucky so far with Excitel, speeds had started dropping slowly a few months ago but after that I started getting connected to different PPPoE Server and its been pretty good.
Singapore:
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With U.S its a bit slower:
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CloudFlare WARP's endpoint is peered for me on Excitel with Extreme-IX you should try that out:
Singapore:
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With U.S its a bit slower:
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CloudFlare WARP's endpoint is peered for me on Excitel with Extreme-IX you should try that out:
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Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. 103.48.199.50 0.0% 1 2.0 2.0 2.0 2.0 0.0
2. (waiting for reply)
3. br1.core.excitel.in 0.0% 1 45.1 45.1 45.1 45.1 0.0
4. as13335.del.extreme-ix.net 0.0% 1 9.8 9.8 9.8 9.8 0.0
5. 162.159.192.1 0.0% 1 8.4 8.4 8.4 8.4 0.0So the peering part is a hit or miss depending on the IP range you get.
It used to be like yours above (going through br1.core.excitel.in) but now with IP's in the subnet 103.95.80.132/24. Below is the traceroute for the same dest IP as above.
Though speedtest to NY looks to be good. Maybe because I'm on the lower 125Mbps plan.
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It used to be like yours above (going through br1.core.excitel.in) but now with IP's in the subnet 103.95.80.132/24. Below is the traceroute for the same dest IP as above.
Though speedtest to NY looks to be good. Maybe because I'm on the lower 125Mbps plan.
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| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| OpenWrt.lan - 0 | 61 | 61 | 0 | 4 | 103 | 1 |
| 103.95.80.1 - 0 | 61 | 61 | 1 | 5 | 104 | 1 |
| No response from host - 100 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 103.56.228.65 - 0 | 61 | 61 | 3 | 10 | 107 | 7 |
| 14.141.116.229.static-Delhi.vsnl.net.in - 0 | 61 | 61 | 2 | 6 | 106 | 5 |
| 172.31.180.57 - 0 | 61 | 61 | 35 | 41 | 139 | 36 |
| ix-ae-4-2.tcore1.cxr-chennai.as6453.net - 0 | 61 | 61 | 36 | 41 | 139 | 37 |
|if-ae-20-39.tcore2.svw-singapore.as6453.net - 4 | 53 | 51 | 79 | 84 | 194 | 79 |
|if-ae-20-2.tcore1.svq-singapore.as6453.net - 0 | 61 | 61 | 79 | 84 | 182 | 80 |
| 120.29.215.101 - 0 | 61 | 61 | 80 | 84 | 183 | 80 |
| 162.159.192.1 - 0 | 61 | 61 | 75 | 78 | 178 | 75 |
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WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provideron OVH Singapore
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this is what I got on US
i used WinMTR for 1.1.1.1
here is result
@JB701 how to connect to different PPPoE servers?
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this is what I got on US
i used WinMTR for 1.1.1.1
here is result
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| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.0.1 - 0 | 188 | 188 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| 103.211.12.21 - 68 | 52 | 17 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 |
| No response from host - 100 | 38 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 103.211.12.241 - 74 | 49 | 13 | 0 | 5 | 19 | 9 |
| 121.240.111.25.static-delhi.vsnl.net.in - 0 | 188 | 188 | 2 | 3 | 15 | 3 |
| 172.31.167.46 - 20 | 109 | 88 | 0 | 39 | 61 | 39 |
| 115.114.85.222 - 95 | 40 | 2 | 38 | 38 | 39 | 38 |
| 14.142.39.21.static-Mumbai.vsnl.net.in - 12 | 133 | 118 | 37 | 39 | 70 | 39 |
| No response from host - 100 | 38 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
|121.240.243.210.STATIC-Mumbai.vsnl.net.in - 52 | 62 | 30 | 43 | 54 | 172 | 47 |
| one.one.one.one - 7 | 150 | 140 | 42 | 43 | 46 | 43 |
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WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider@JB701 how to connect to different PPPoE servers?
you can't change the server, it varies by LCO.
That said usually there usually two pppoe servers on a lco. On Mikrotik RouterOS you can change AC Name (not to be confused with service name) to connect to different server to get lower congestion (i've tried it it does work). But on most routers you get randomly connected to either of the PPPoE Servers.
The NAT IP you get from PPPoE will be different based on pppoe server for example I get CGNAT IP 10.10.148.x IP on one PPPoE Server and 10.10.150.x on another.
That said usually there usually two pppoe servers on a lco. On Mikrotik RouterOS you can change AC Name (not to be confused with service name) to connect to different server to get lower congestion (i've tried it it does work). But on most routers you get randomly connected to either of the PPPoE Servers.
The NAT IP you get from PPPoE will be different based on pppoe server for example I get CGNAT IP 10.10.148.x IP on one PPPoE Server and 10.10.150.x on another.
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This is excitel at my place
Ping loss
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| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| www.routerlogin.com - 0 | 45 | 45 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| 103.212.157.5 - 0 | 45 | 45 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 |
| 103.212.157.1 - 75 | 12 | 3 | 0 | 5 | 10 | 2 |
| 103.212.157.38 - 20 | 26 | 21 | 3 | 18 | 58 | 32 |
| 121.240.111.25.static-delhi.vsnl.net.in - 0 | 45 | 45 | 2 | 3 | 32 | 2 |
| 172.29.250.34 - 0 | 45 | 45 | 25 | 26 | 42 | 26 |
| 172.28.132.245 - 3 | 41 | 40 | 26 | 26 | 33 | 26 |
|121.240.243.210.static-mumbai.vsnl.net.in - 70 | 13 | 4 | 0 | 29 | 32 | 28 |
| 162.159.192.1 - 13 | 31 | 27 | 26 | 27 | 30 | 27 |
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Ping loss
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| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| www.routerlogin.com - 0 | 45 | 45 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| 103.212.157.5 - 0 | 45 | 45 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 |
| 103.212.157.1 - 75 | 12 | 3 | 0 | 5 | 10 | 2 |
| 103.212.157.38 - 20 | 26 | 21 | 3 | 18 | 58 | 32 |
| 121.240.111.25.static-delhi.vsnl.net.in - 0 | 45 | 45 | 2 | 3 | 32 | 2 |
| 172.29.250.34 - 0 | 45 | 45 | 25 | 26 | 42 | 26 |
| 172.28.132.245 - 3 | 41 | 40 | 26 | 26 | 33 | 26 |
|121.240.243.210.static-mumbai.vsnl.net.in - 70 | 13 | 4 | 0 | 29 | 32 | 28 |
| 162.159.192.1 - 13 | 31 | 27 | 26 | 27 | 30 | 27 |
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