VDSL to Xstream fiber upgrade, need suggestion for optimal installation location.

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Hello Guys,

I have a decade old airtel connection which was upgraded to 40Mbps plan of VDSL in 2017, now with new plans airtel is asking me to upgrade to Xstream fiber 100mbps plan with cost reduction. My issue is that the VDSL connection had underground cable in the house so it was easy upgrade.

However for Xstream fiber they are not doing it underground cable, they are only doing over wall wire installation which looks bad & this wire cannot reach my computer desk as there is a bathroom 2 walls in between with full height tiles. We live in Multi story flats & RWA is not allowing airtel to draw wire from outside building else the problem would be easy to solve.
airtel VDSL castle.webp


Point 1. This is my present VDSL router next to computer drawing power from the UPS so no interruption to zoom meetings at all. All underground cable.
Point 2. This location is what Airtel is wanting to install new modem, I will have to buy extra UPS just for this router else cant get uninterrupted connection.
WE have power backup which takes 30-60 sec.
Point 3. alternative installation
Point 4. is where kids computer is installed using wifi dongle connected to main router.
Point 5. is TV area which I plan to buy this year.

MY question is as follows:
If I install new router at Point 2 along with new UPS can I get good coverage at Point 1 (18 feet away with 2 bathroom walls in between)
& point 5 (25feet away) without much speed loss?
If not then can I use old airtel VDSL router as wifi extender so I get better speed & coverage?
 
Hats off for such detail post.
How is Airtel going to bring wire to point A. using existing VDSL ducts? or new drill through the walls.
From point 2 to point 1 I doubt you will get 5G coverage. it will be 2G coverage and expect decent speed..(probably similar to Point 4 speed that you get from point 1) You can think of using existing Router in Wireless repeater mode in case you face issue at point 1

Offtopic. instead of buying new UPS for router, just power the router using pass through battery bank(much cost effective)
 
Hats off for such detail post.
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Thanks I like to make things clear as much as I can 🙂 so discussion is productive.

How is Airtel going to bring wire to point A. using existing VDSL ducts? or new drill through the walls.
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Yes they plan to drill hole above the main door to bring the wire inside, the building has a wire duct for jio & airtel wires running outside the main entrance of flats.

just power the router using pass through battery bank(much cost effective)
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You mean a powerbank? but then that powerbank would need to be unplugged & charged mostly after 1-2 days, isn't it?
Moreover does the Xstream router allows to be powered with powerbank?
 
In case it is coming via Main door. Point 2 seems to be the best place,

Yes, I mean powerbank.
Just get a USB to Power cable...use this cable from the powerbank to run your router.
Keep the powerbank with charger 24/7....it will act as UPS for the router ...total max 1K
search youtube lot of DIY also available in case you are not getting the USB to power pin cable
 
Is your present VDSL adequate for your needs? If yes, then why change?
If you really want to change, then guess the proposed location is the best option. Taking the wire to point 3 over the wall would look bad. Another option is to install it parallel to point 3, installed on the wall at the left side of the entry passage, just before where your Drg room set up is located, provided you have some power supply nearby. But I have doubts if the wifi signal will carry to your main computer (present VDSL) location, in which case, you may need a repeater near the entry of the room where your present set up is, to cover the main computer and the proposed TV.
 
Sudarshan61 said:
In case it is coming via Main door. Point 2 seems to be the best place,
Where exactly is this duct situated? jus outside the main gate or near your utility area.?

Just get a USB to Power cable...use this cable from the powerbank to run your router.
Keep the powerbank with charger 24/7....it will act as UPS for the router ...total max 1K
search youtube lot of DIY also available in case you are not getting the USB to power pin cable
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Yes the duct is just outside the main door & that is connected directly to internal wiring running underground inside the flat on which I use VDSL as of now.

I will surely try this powerbank idea it saves me the cost & very lightweight too, hope I can buy the usb to power cable as suggested.
 
pachabhut said:
Is your present VDSL adequate for your needs? If yes, then why change?
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Its mostly adequate but I am paying higher amount that too for 40mbps connection, where as new plans are offering 100mbps speed & lower cost that too unlimited 3.3TB per month.


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Taking the wire to point 3 over the wall would look bad. Another option is to install it parallel to point 3, installed on the wall at the left side of the entry passage, just before where your Drg room set up is located, provided you have some power supply nearby.
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Point 3 has a a socket nearby & if I can get the powerbank to power the Router then this location will be ideal as its the center of the house.

I shared the same map with airtel installation team, they told me best is to install the router in master bedroom (near the gate of point 5) that way you will have all 4 areas well covered, they propose to bring the wire at roof height & drill 2 holes only.
 
if main issue is paying more, you can always change your existing VDSL plan via airtel thanks app to 499 with 3333 GB limit.
 
Yes I can do that too so I will be on same 40mbps with less cost,
but nowdays kids online classes plus zoom meetings happening so the upload speed is capped at 8mbps which at times hamper the online experience in VDSL hence the need to upgrade to 100mbps 799/- plan.
 
Sudarshan61 said:
Just get a USB to Power cable...use this cable from the powerbank to run your router.
Keep the powerbank with charger 24/7....it will act as UPS for the router ...total max 1K
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Found this one ready made although its only 2000Mah but should serve the purpose.
Oakter MiniUPS Online Power Backup for WiFi/ADSL Routers Set-top Box

Oakter Mini UPS for Wi-Fi Router Uninterrupted Power Backup for WiFi Routers and Broadband Modem Up to 4 Hours Power Backup to Wi-Fi Router 12V (Assorted Colour Available): Amazon.in: Computers & Accessories

Oakter Mini UPS for Wi-Fi Router Uninterrupted Power Backup for WiFi Routers and Broadband Modem Up to 4 Hours Power Backup to Wi-Fi Router 12V (Assorted Colour Available): Amazon.in: Computers & Accessories
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@Sudarshan61 will the powerbank be able to support 12v,2A ? i would like to use it with Huawei HG8145V5, when i tried to use it , router was not turning on . Another point to note, even though the router has Pass Through , whenever AC main power goes and comes back , power bank output will stop and come back which leaves 1 second gap , which which turn off/on the router which defeats the purpose of UPS. do u have any jugaad for this ?
 
droid said:
will the powerbank be able to support 12v,2A ?
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Even I thought the same question, as most powerbank are rated 5v 2A

droid said:
whenever AC main power goes and comes back , power bank output will stop and come back which leaves 1 second gap , which which turn off/on the router which defeats the purpose of UPS. do u have any jugaad for this ?
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You are right just tested this & it turns off as seen in this video. So better solution is to buy the MiniUPS from oakter although it cost almost same as bigger 600VA UPS but mini can be mounted on wall no need of battery replacements every few years.


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