Do you think BSNL is finished ?

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Do you think BSNL is finished ?

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Currently, the most competitive plan of BSNL is 2GB per day after which the speed gets cut to 1Mbps for 299 or so. I used to be a customer years ago, left because of very poor service.

Now that Jio has started unlimited 30Mbps at 399, the BSNL 2GB per day @ 10MBps is meaningless, probably not worth even 50.
The same way a lot of broadband customers left BSNL for Jio 4G........we may see a mass exodus of the remaining BSNL users to Jio.
From past experience, BSNL is not willing to upgrade themselves to compete.

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I guess BSNL will retaliate, but it’ll be too late by then. No one can help it if a company is sabotaged, can they?
 
BSNL sabotaged themselves. The Govt should have offered their top management compulsory VRS or thrown them out..

BSNL is making a big deal that they were not granted 4G spectrum in time.
What stopped them from giving 3G at 3G prices all these years, instead of trying to sell 3G at 4G rates?

All this time they have been trying to squeeze the market and now they will be squeezed out.
 
I think Bsnl must respond very quickly since they are the largest broadband wired provider now and they have everything to lose from this jio deal. Atleast they have an extra edge now since jio will takes time to expand to more areas especially rural ones . If they didn't retaliate that will be the end of bsnl as whole ,they lost in 4g now and this is the only other thing they are fairng now
 
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BSNL sabotaged themselves. The Govt should have offered their top management compulsory VRS or thrown them out..

BSNL is making a big deal that they were not granted 4G spectrum in time.
What stopped them from giving 3G at 3G prices all these years, instead of trying to sell 3G at 4G rates?

All this time they have been trying to squeeze the market and now they will be squeezed out.
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3G spectrum was extremely expensive, even more so for BSNL who had to buy it pan India (except Mumbai and Delhi) at much higher rates than private operators. BSNL’s incompetence lies in the very fact that even making the slightest of change/ purchase require making tenders. Private operators did not venture into remote areas (until recently) where BSNL had to maintain telephone exchanges and mobile BTS at high expenses. The business model was very different back then, and a lot less intrusive, if I may say so.

I do not laud any particular ISP, neither am I full of angst against any. But I do believe that credit needs to be given where it’s due.
 

I'm not sure if 4G spectrum is more expensive or 3G. Logically it must be 4G

In these last 3 years what stopped BSNL from keeping their 3G prices the same instead of increasing prices to 4G rates ?
They had a golden chance to cost cut the competition, instead they "upgraded" their prices to prevailing 4G rates while offering 3G and then lost customers. When Jio is cost cutting, they had to fight fire with fire.
Totally incompetent management.
 
Believe it or not, 3G equipments were more expensive than LTE.

Your argument about 3G vs 4G and their prevalent prices is logical, but which time period are you talking about? Reliance Jio did exist 3 years back and every ISP raised prices.
 
How much BSNL succeeds depends on how much it is allowed to compete. They wanted to have spectrum allocation but govt poked it's nose and said no to Chinese vendors. Now the local vendors will try to maximise their gains which will again make BSNL non-competitive.

If govt wants it to be competitive then it should see it as an asset, not a liability.

What they did, could, should have done is past. Focus on existing assets to maximise profits. They recently launched AirFibre in Bihar for areas where laying fibre is not possible. Expand this on a larger scale.
 
What happened with bsnl on 3g is very different from what is happening now in wired segment. Now Jio has declared a tariff war which is mainly focused only at Bsnl. During 3g area bsnl was not even the market leader which they lost their position to airtel in 2009 itself. When jio came bsnl was at the fourth position already, that time war was focused mainly at airtel idea Vodafone etc . BSNL not even suffered losses of what other faced


Now the situation is entirely different as bsnl is the wired market leader not any other private ones like airtel ,vil exists even for a competition. So this time if they dont act proactively they will have the fate of vil or worse. I hope bsnl will come with similar tariffs sooner or they will lose. It's not that they dont have any infrastructure, they have twice the amount of fiber backbone jio has and man power etc.
 
Lamborghini said:
What they did, could, should have done is past. Focus on existing assets to maximise profits. They recently launched AirFibre in Bihar for areas where laying fibre is not possible. Expand this on a larger scale.
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Not possible. They took a wrong turn in the past and now they are on the wrong road heading to the wrong destination.
Time to pay the price.
 
philip said:
Now the situation is entirely different as bsnl is the wired market leader not any other private ones like airtel ,vil exists even for a competition. So this time if they dont act proactively they will have the fate of vil or worse. I hope bsnl will come with similar tariffs sooner or they will lose. It's not that they dont have any infrastructure, they have twice the amount of fiber backbone jio has and man power etc.
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It boils down to management.
 
Lamborghini said:
What they did, could, should have done is past. Focus on existing assets to maximise profits. They recently launched AirFibre in Bihar for areas where laying fibre is not possible. Expand this on a larger scale.
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Not possible. They took a wrong turn in the past and now they are on the wrong road heading to the wrong destination.
Time to pay the price.
 
xtc said:
Not possible. They took a wrong turn in the past and now they are on the wrong road heading to the wrong destination.
Time to pay the price.
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If we go by this logic...then Apple, Google, Microsoft, Tesla have also made mistakes in the past and of far greater magnitude than what BSNL has. I don't see them sinking anytime soon.
Agreed, mistakes were made and they are paying the price. But if we don't allow them to correct their course then how will it succeed.
I believe BSNL is under better management and if given a chance they can surely bounce back. But no, not with that attitude.
 

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