Netplus FTTH : User Experience

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Ever since I kept seeing ISP experience of many FTTH users here, i was very eager to try out the same but living in a small town has its own perks! Before this FTTH connection I had BSNL broadband (which was not very stable but kept as a backup for my buisness) and a local isp who provided wireless internet via 5Ghz unlicensed spectrum using AS134042(Maha Mediacom LLP). So they had a ubiquiti air grid m5 installed and the plan provided was 32Mbps Up and Down with no FUP @Rs.2000/- per month. The speed and service were all great but it wasn't FTTH😁.

Installation:-
One day got a call from my cable tv provider that they have started Netplus FTTH (AS133661) in my area, so after discussing i selected 1299 Plan which provided 150Mbps Unlimited and was told installation will be done in 2 days. But it took them 3 weeks for the installation (already a bad sign) and the reason for the same was that the LCO is only allowed to do the wiring part of the installation and the rest i.e. modem configuration will be done by the netplus engineer himself who 3 weeks to visit my place. Installation charges were Rs.3000/- and they gave a zte f660 GPON ont but as i knew the LCO i told him i wont be paying the installation until i test the service for around 1 week or so which he agreed.

IP Addresses:-
Netplus doesn't provide public IP addresses and hence its CGNAT but the main IP address keeps changing every day or two. I was not used to this as in my previous wireless connection i had static ip address without any extra charges. Also no IPv6 here.

Speeds:-
This is where I didnt like this ISP much. Speeds on local servers is okay okay but as soon as I download or test speed on international servers there is a big dip in speeds and pings are also not that great,even my wireless isp gives better pings and consistent speeds all around according to the plan. I get 100-120Mbps on local servers which is not that great as i have a 150Mbps connection (or am I asking too much). The netplus engineer also told that de have removed their servers from speedtest.net hence low speeds and they recommend speedtest.net.in to test speeds.

On Speedtest.net
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Servers- Netplus Ludhiana, Airtel Delhi, Tata Sky Broadband Mumbai, ACT Chennai.

Now some international Servers

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Servers- Singtel Singapore, GTT London, New York AT&T

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Netplus (AS133661) uses TATA, Airtel and Vodafone as their IP transit.

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Service:-
The service is ought to be poor because the lco don't have the authority to change or alter ont or olt settings, all technical work is restricted to the netplus engineer (who didn't even knew how to change the LAN IP addresses of the ONT😅). Even while installation i was the only one on that main fiber but was still getting -29dBm optical signal and the engineer didn't cared about it and after few days the LOS light started blinking 10-15 times a day. After complaining the engineer came after 3 days(knowing that the connection is being used for my business) and changed my connection to some other line and the signal was around -6dBm, but today its back to -27dBm. Also the downtime is very frequent (optical LOS). While writing this user experience the connection went down again!😠

The thing is i need help to decide whether to keep this connection or switch to Bsnl Fiber (launched here yesterday and the lco is very knowledgeable), ill be keeping my wireless connection active which soon will be upgraded to fiber but i need another connection for backup so either it will be netplus or Bsnl fiber.
 
Pretyy much small LCO based ISPs are no good if your usage goes beyond the sphere of Netflix,Youtube and some social media.

Anyplan over 50 Mbps are not worth subscribing from small ISPs( better look for data usage based plans from small guys)
Can you explain?
 
@Mickey7 as dicussed previously, they don't buy enough transits to provide high bandwidth(>50mbps) to non-cached server(basically international servers)

Companies like netflix, youtube and instaGram has invested deeply in India and integrated with lots of TIER2 ISPs too , they have installed their caches with popular content, since their caches are local and their peering mostly free for ISPs so they apparently provide high bandwisth and low latency connection to eye-ball providers but beyond that due to lack of transits, they struggle providing high bandwidth to customers
 
So one should avoid Netplus..i was thinking of getting Netplus as my backup connection and disconnect BSNL
 
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Idk what works best in your area, in my opinion I would keep a pair of Airtel/BSNL if I wanted primary and backup or multiple WAN arrangement(
Right now Airtel is offering 3.3TB but earlier BSNL's offer was more value for money if airtel is off the scene).

If due to certain circumstances you have to go with netplus, then go for plans 50 or sub 50 mbps with more data imo.
 
So one should avoid Netplus..i was thinking of getting Netplus as my backup connection and disconnect BSNL
See that depends on the kind of usage you require. Netplus for me had an advantage of truly unlimited plans and the fact that it was prepaid. So i was ok to keep it as a secondary connection and whenever i require i can just recharge it and get it activated. Other than that the routing and all was bad on netplus but anything on Google, fb, insta, streaming services etc worked great. The lack of LCO support made me stop using it altogether. Luckily i got bsnl ftth without any installation cost, a dynamic public ip and not CG-NAT was more temping than truly unlimited plans of netplus.
 
@Mickey7 as dicussed previously, they don't buy enough transits to provide high bandwidth(>50mbps) to non-cached server(basically international servers)

Companies like netflix, youtube and instaGram has invested deeply in India and integrated with lots of TIER2 ISPs too , they have installed their caches with popular content, since their caches are local and their peering mostly free for ISPs so they apparently provide high bandwisth and low latency connection to eye-ball providers but beyond that due to lack of transits, they struggle providing high bandwidth to customers
@Realme man are you a Comptia Net+ or CCNA certificate holder? I mean seriously how do you know a lot of things.
Btw, thank you for a comprehensive answer!
 


None of them, be assured I am noob (I have a noob2x certificate), whatever knowledge I have is due to my betters here at this forum.
 
Got Netplus connection recently, speeds are decent 100 mbps+ even on international servers, ping is okay, for some reason optical module input power is always -30dbm, but somehow speed still stays above 120 mbps both upload and download, however i do get high packet loss and RTO's sometimes, but i want to know is -30dbm really that bad ?
i don't know how can i get them to fix it, any idea guys ?
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The optical power input of your connection is at the minimum level, a drop of a decimal point and you will face disconnection. Tell your lco about it, he should be able to rectify it.
The speeds look good, can you show me a trace route to google.com and imgur.com
 
I have -17.4, Number of packet loss has imporeved. I am facing less RTOs after complaining to Nodal officer.

Optical Module Input Power(dBm)-17.4
 
Pretyy much small LCO based ISPs are no good if your usage goes beyond the sphere of Netflix,Youtube and some social media.

Anyplan over 50 Mbps are not worth subscribing from small ISPs( better look for data usage based plans from small guys)
Its working good on 150 mbps as if i download from any server it goes full speed dont know rest.
 

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