Precious Netcom Pvt. Ltd. (PNPL) ISP Experience

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I have been on PNPL for over two months now ever since my LCO moved me over from ANI Broadband and I just wanted to share my experience with them. I'm currently using PNPL as a backup for Tripleplay connection.

Installation/Pricing:

There was no separate installation because the same LCO provides both PNPL and ANI; so if you want my installation experience, you can check it out on my other thread ANI Broadband 100Mbit Plan experience | ANI Broadband

ANI had turned bad for me, with very low speeds and packet loss to international servers at peak times. Around mid-Feb , ANI went down completely for me and LCO wasn't able to fix it quickly (presumably because they didn't have SLA?), so they swapped me over to PNPL.

The funny thing is, before I got fiber installed at my home; the same LCO provided me with PNPL (1000/month for 100Mbit) and when I told him that international speeds were trash, he told me to switch to fiber and get ANI for 2000/month (100Mbit) . It worked quite well for me for around a year, until it too started screwing up.
Now, they want me to pay 2000/month for the same thing that I was paying 1000/month a year ago.

DNS Hijacking:

PNPL has DNS Hijacking just like most other small ISPs. This can be bypassed by using encrypted DNS (DoH or DoT); I'm currently using AdGuard Home for network wide encrypted CloudFlare/Google/OpenDNS.
If you host your own DNS Server or want to use a DNS Server without encryption this might be a problem for you.

No Public IP:

My LCO had told me that they will provide me static IP on PNPL for Rs. 500 Extra monthly but they never ended up giving me one (I didn't make any payment so it wasn't much of an issue). You'll get shitty CGNAT without any IPv6 instead. This isn't much of a problem for me as PNPL is only a backup ISP for me; but if want to use it as primary connection and you want public IP then PNPL isn't for you.

Speeds:

Like most ISPs, you will get full speeds to peered servers all the time, PNPL has been decent with non-peered speeds but the problem is it drops very low during weekends and peak hours.

Here are some speedtests at 2PM:

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Servers: MNR Broadband (Delhi,peered), Singtel (SG), GTT.Net (London), Spectrum (NYC), AT&T (NYC).

It can drop really low during weekends (this test was done on 2nd Feb (Sunday) at 10PM:

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Usually, it doesn't stoop this low (around 30-40Mbit on weekends).


Usenet speeds are 'fine' but its not reaching even close to full capacity (~12MB/s) with 60 connections and is quite spiky going between 7-10MB/s compared to flat 11-12MB/s on Tripleplay

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Torrents are kinda hard to measure but I did try Ubuntu ISO, it was able to get beyond 100Mbit (around ~15MB/s) but the problem is it only got to this speed half way through the download (you can see the 7.7MB/s avg). It was initally quite slow at 4-5MB/s and this is a torrent with tons of seeders.
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Also, good luck getting any upload on private trackers as PNPL doesn't have either IPv6 or any option for Public IP (paid or otherwise), so you are mostly closed off from the internet.


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I also tried some test files such as Leaseweb files https://mirror.leaseweb.com/speedtest/10000mb.bin and DigitalOcean SG files SGP1 Speedtest | DigitalOcean .

With Leaseweb file on Firefox (no download manager) I was getting around ~3MB/s compared to ~9MB/s with Tripleplay (I let both download for 1 minute before checking).
With DigtialOcean SG file, I got ~16MB/s on PNPL and ~12MB/s on Tripleplay.
 
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Found something interesting today about PNPL
When I turn my VPN (Surfshark Indore Server) on I get >300Mbps
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Without VPN:
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What makes this even more interesting is that my plan is 50Mbps
 
So after seeing how well PNPL is performing now, I decided to get their 200Mbps plan for 2500 a month and its amazing:
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International uploads are a bit low but its acceptable, sometimes its at 200 Mbps and other times uploads are low. Peered speed does drop to ~200Mbps for a few hours after 9PM but international speeds are consistent at 250Mbps most of the time for some reason. Maybe PNPL got their shit together. I should probably update my review.

LCO also told me that static IP will be available "soon".

Considering Excitel Fiber 300Mbps wont be in my area anytime soon, I will be using this as my primary connection from now on.
 
2500 for 200mbps is a rip off price. I think he knows you'll easily pay 2500 from last ani experience.
So all his plans are price 2500 only. IMO this plan should not cost more than 1500.
Though speeds are awesome. This is over fiber?
 
yeah its completely overpriced. i tried to get him to accept 200Mbps for 2k but he told me if I paid 3 months upfront then he will provide it for that price.

yea its over fiber.
 
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Uploads outside of peered servers are screwed. Even VPN don't help. 🙁 . I'm switching back to 1k plan next month and going back to TriplePlay. Kinda wished they offered 200 or 300 Mbps I'll instantly jump on that.

LCO won't help me as they only care about domestic speed. Maybe if I show how well my TriplePlay is doing they might do something lol

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Code: 
 Host                                                                                                                                                                                                             Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. AS60781  v39.ce01.ams-01.nl.leaseweb.net                                                                                                                                                                       0.0%    12    0.2   0.3   0.2   0.4   0.1
 2. AS???    be-5.cr02.ams-01.nl.leaseweb.net                                                                                                                                                                      0.0%    12    0.8   1.0   0.8   2.0   0.3
 3. AS6453   ix-xe-0-0-1-0.thar1.hnn-haarlem.as6453.net                                                                                                                                                            0.0%    12    1.0   1.3   0.9   2.2   0.5
 4. AS6453   if-ae-2-44.tcore1.av2-amsterdam.as6453.net                                                                                                                                                            0.0%    12   21.9  22.2  21.8  23.9   0.6
 5. AS6453   if-ae-6-3.tcore1.fnm-frankfurt.as6453.net                                                                                                                                                             0.0%    12   22.0  22.2  21.8  22.8   0.4
 6. AS6453   if-ae-12-80.tcore2.fnm-frankfurt.as6453.net                                                                                                                                                          83.3%    12   21.9  22.0  21.9  22.2   0.2
 7. AS6453   if-ae-7-3.tcore2.wyn-marseille.as6453.net                                                                                                                                                             0.0%    12   23.5  22.2  21.6  26.2   1.4
 8. AS6453   80.231.200.26                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    12  117.1 117.1 116.7 119.1   0.7
 9. ???
10. AS4755   14.143.30.150.static-delhi.vsnl.net.in                                                                                                                                                               63.6%    12  138.3 138.2 138.1 138.3   0.1
11. AS133676 103.99.196.30                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    12  137.4 137.6 137.4 138.3   0.3
12. AS133676 103.99.196.29                                                                                                                                                                                        90.9%    12  139.2 139.2 139.2 139.2   0.0
13. AS133676 103.99.196.30                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    12  137.5 137.7 137.4 139.3   0.6
14. AS133676 103.99.196.29                                                                                                                                                                                        81.8%    12  139.7 139.4 139.1 139.7   0.4
15. AS133676 103.99.196.30                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    11  137.5 137.5 137.4 137.6   0.0
16. AS133676 103.99.196.29                                                                                                                                                                                        90.0%    11  149.5 149.5 149.5 149.5   0.0
17. AS133676 103.99.196.30                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    11  137.5 137.5 137.5 137.6   0.0
18. AS133676 103.99.196.29                                                                                                                                                                                        63.6%    11  139.2 140.6 139.1 145.1   2.9
19. AS133676 103.99.196.30                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    11  137.5 137.5 137.4 137.7   0.1
20. AS133676 103.99.196.29                                                                                                                                                                                        60.0%    11  139.1 139.6 139.1 140.6   0.7
21. AS133676 103.99.196.30                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    11  138.8 137.7 137.5 138.8   0.4
22. AS133676 103.99.196.29                                                                                                                                                                                        70.0%    11  140.3 139.6 139.2 140.3   0.6
23. AS133676 103.99.196.30                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    11  137.9 137.6 137.5 138.1   0.2
24. AS133676 103.99.196.29                                                                                                                                                                                        70.0%    11  140.0 139.7 139.5 140.0   0.2
25. AS133676 103.99.196.30                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    11  137.6 137.6 137.5 137.7   0.0
26. ???
27. AS133676 103.99.196.30                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    11  137.6 137.6 137.5 137.8   0.1
28. AS133676 103.99.196.29                                                                                                                                                                                        70.0%    11  139.3 139.2 139.1 139.3   0.1
29. AS133676 103.99.196.30                                                                                                                                                                                         0.0%    11  137.9 137.7 137.6 137.9   0.1
30. AS133676 103.99.196.29                                                                                                                                                                                        80.0%    11  139.4 139.4 139.3 139.4   0.1

When traceroute from my NL Server to my PNPL Public IP (PNPL uses CGN), there seems to be a routing loop.
 
So I got a static IP free of charge from PNPL.
Now:
1. DNS hijacking is gone
2. Routing is different
3. I'm no longer technically on PNPL network AS133676 but rather on "Commonbee Network" AS140112 which I assume is just a way for PNPL to get more IPs

Here are some traceroutes:
Same shit pings to 1.1.1.1
Code: 
Host                                                            Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
1. AS???    router.lan                                           0.0%    11    0.2   0.2   0.1   0.2   0.0
2. AS140112 103.149.160.13                                       0.0%    11    1.0   0.8   0.6   1.0   0.1
3. (waiting for reply)
4. AS18002  43.251.214.101                                      70.0%    11    3.4   5.3   3.4   9.1   3.3
5. AS4755   14.143.30.41.static-delhi.vsnl.net.in                0.0%    11    2.5   3.8   2.5   9.2   1.9
6. (waiting for reply)
7. AS???    115.114.85.222                                      90.0%    11   44.8  44.8  44.8  44.8   0.0
8. AS???    115.114.85.241                                       9.1%    11   37.8  38.5  37.8  39.4   0.5
9. AS6453   if-ae-34-2.tcore1.svq-singapore.as6453.net           9.1%    11   81.5  81.7  80.8  84.6   1.1
10. AS6453   120.29.215.101                                       0.0%    11   83.2  85.6  82.3  96.8   4.6
11. AS13335  one.one.one.one                                      0.0%    10   85.3  85.3  84.9  85.7   0.2

Google is routed through DE-CIX.

Code: 
Host                                          Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
1. AS???    router.lan                         0.0%    17    0.2   0.2   0.1   0.2   0.0
2. AS140112 103.149.160.13                     0.0%    16    0.8   0.9   0.4   1.4   0.3
3. (waiting for reply)
4. AS133296 smtp1-10.mlktmta.com               0.0%    16    1.9   2.2   1.1   5.4   1.3
5. AS15169  108.170.251.97                     0.0%    16    2.8   2.4   1.9   2.8   0.3
6. AS15169  216.239.47.99                      0.0%    16    2.6   3.0   2.2   4.0   0.5
7. AS15169  dns.google                         0.0%    16    2.1   2.4   1.8   3.0   0.3

I dunno what the third hop is. AS18002 is WORLDPHONE-IN so traffic is going through that
 
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Unfortunately outside of peered servers, PNPL/CommonBee just isn't very good without VPN.
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With US or EU servers its even lower like 30-40Mbit/s . Kinda expected speed to increase with static IP, its about the same. Granted this was during congestion time.
 
Without VPN
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With VPN:
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TriplePlay without VPN (100Mbit Plan)
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