Excitel Broadband is working on using IPv6 on their network

philip marlowe

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Aakash Malhotra said:
{offtopic} to @philip marlowe i know that static ips are costly but a solution of some kind is much needed .
i can think of two things -

1 - offer opening of ports via registering a request.
example - i want to open xyz port . i call/email you guys giving detailed info of the port i want to open and why i want to get it opened. your backend guys then forward the port on your main public ip. if a port is something like that can be abusive to your network you can deny the customers request. but if a port pertains to a video game , if it gets forwarded on your main public ip , it shouldnt cause any problem to anyone.

2 - create a portal that the customers can use to forward the ports. i dont know how this can be done, this can be abusive as well . but just a thought that came into my mind.
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Will IPv6 suffice your needs or particularly IPv4 Public IP is required?

Excitel is working towards IPv6 as this will give basically unlimited Public IPs 🙂
 
Ipv6 would be even better as more and more isps will shift toward it in the near future.

But how will it be deployed, a single ipv6 for a user or a block of IPs for all his devices?
 
Act seems to be doing it the second way from what I read. All devices get individual ipv6 ips ?
 
WIth IPv6 and individual IPs and IoT and all that shite there will be more and more cases of hacking/botnets and what not since the bad guys will now have direct access to all devices.
 
Yup I agree with that, but it offers various advantages also. If you don't want your IoT devices to get public ip use can still use a router to put them behind a NAT device and give them all private ipv6/ipv4 IPs
 
i would go with ipv6 as this the future even though i have very little knowledge about this field. gonna youtube about it

but the sooner we migrate to new tech the better.
 

IPV6 >> CG NAT

a lot of vulnerable (like unpatched windows) devices which are not properly configured and do not have a firewall would start broadcasting on internet basically with publicly available penetration tools you can start scanning internet and hack a lot of devices.

A good router with stateful firewall should be enough to block these attacks by blocking any incoming connection not initiated from your device. If virus is already installed in user device like you downloaded something then NAT does not helps only attacker needs a static ip for C&C server.
 
can somebody with knowledge about ipv6 and dual stacking tell me how it actually works? i googled and got the basic gist of it that it refers to running both ipv4 and ipv6.

for an end user like me how does it actually work?

say for example - i play a lot of multiplayer video games and due to Dual nat on excitel games like tekken 7, that require ports to be opened to connect to a wider player base, dont work.

after excitel implements dual stacking, how will i be benefited ?
 
you can directly(open ports) connect with other ipv6 users, for ipv4 users you will get nat

Basically if you don't use dual stack you cannot connect with users, servers which are only using ipv6/4 .

ex- some govt website which is only running on ipv4, you will not be able to connect to it with only ipv6 .
 
oh okay. so it is not really a full proof solution. we wont be benefited from this solution for services that dont use ipv6 but require open ports.

steam servers still dont support ipv6 .
most online games still dont support ipv6.

i was really excited about this upcoming feature but now i am just disappointed.
 
well no isp can do anything about that because there are just not enough ipv4 address available for everyone to have so its really fault of services that still don't support it, ffs this problem was known since 90s .
 
If anyone wants to learn more about how it all works, read RFC 7040, RFC 7596 & NAT64.
 

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